New Power tool line from a name you know

[Leon]

Better keep your eyes open if you are shipping for DeWalt power tools, a look alike tool is about to hit the shelves.

[WW]

Better keep your eyes open if you are shipping for DeWalt power tools, a look alike tool is about to hit the shelves.

I wastold Blacl & decker bought DeWalt. Any one know if this is true? WW

[willshak]

Yes, it is true, and also true is that besides that, Stanley bought Black & Decker, Porter Cable, and Delta.

[Lew Hodgett]

--------------------------------- At least 15 years ago.

Lew

[Leon]

LOL, True and possibly before you were born! Certainly before the 80's as their tools were identical except perhaps in color.

[j]

Merger...

Ever since B&D went to China, everything with it's name on it that I bought, has broken. From coffee maker to power drill to hedge trimmer, it is all junk. Sends a shiver up my spine thinking what else they can ruin. YMMV.

Jeff

[krw]

I don't understand what's so special about DeWalt? Is there *really* space between DeWalt and Porter Cable to squeeze another line?

[Leon]

I kinda caught on to that too. BUT once upon a time B&D was a quality and reputable power tool and by the way things have seemed to go in the past ten or so years one could say, Once upon a time PC was a quality and reputable power tool.

It seems that B&D power hand tools have been on the very slippery downward slope since they started building DeWalt power hand tools.

[krw]

Agreed, though I think B&D started going downhill long before they bought the others.

Long before that. I've had some real junk with the B&D name on it.

Don't get me wrong, DeWalt isn't a terrible brand but it certainly isn't anywhere near the top. Porter Cable still have some decent stuff (routers, mostly) but most has slumped to the B&D level. I could see a higher end than B&D but not another lower.

Bostich had a great name. It really is a shame to see it being marketed as sub-DeWalt.

[WW]

LOL, True and possibly before you were born! Certainly before the 80's as their tools were identical except perhaps in color.

Leon>>> Before I was born? No way. Born 1927 WWll Navy and sea bees.. WW

[russellseaton1]

The following caught my attention in the article referenced herein.

"There's a sizeable gap in price and performance between DeWalt and Porter- Cable. This new line of power tools seems intended to fill that gap by appe aling to budget-conscious pros who want something better than Porter-Cable but may not need or be able to afford DeWalt."

When did Porter Cable stop being a professional carpenter brand? Porter Ca ble was all Norm Abram used on the New Yankee Workshop. I think he qualifi es as a pro carpenter-woodworker. I think of the following brands as pro t ools. Bosch, DeWalt, Porter Cable, Milwaukee, Makita. Hilti, Metabo, and some of the other European brands are a bit different.

[Leon]

Pro grade does not mean quality. PC quality has been slipping since the late 90's.

[Leon]

LOL, I did not know your age but some here that would have qualified. B&D actually bought DeWalt in 1960. About 20~25 years ago. DeWalt started producing power hand tools vs the larger stationary machines. AFWIW DeWalt invented the Radial Arm Saw.

[Leon]

IMHO DeWalt is good but I too feel that there are better brand tools out there. I had some PC sanders that were top notch but that was in the early 90's. I don't think they ever could build a decent cordless drill. ;~) I don't think you can go wrong with Makita and some Milwaukee stuff, especially the corded tools. I have never been impress with Bosch drills and or impacts. On occasion I have used Bosch drills of in the past 25 years and oddly enough had them fail every time I used them. Some where along the line I apparently won a Bosch impact, it showed up on my door step addressed to me shipped directly from Bosch and no explanation. It is the 18~19 volt variety and I previously owned a 12 volt Makita impact. I still prefer the Makita over the Bosch. There was not a job that I did not use the Makita impact until I got a Festool T15-3 cordless drill. That drill has replaced my old Makita drill and impact and Bosch impact. I have not used any of the impacts in the last 21 months. I do have two Bosch routers that are very good and a B&d router from 1974 that is a great little tool.

[none]

On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 22:48:58 -0500, Leon

++1. I too have (and still use) a 1hp B&D router I received in 1972 for my 18th birthday. It's mostly metal construction with just a little plastic for the baseplate and the handles. When I pass by present day mostly plastic 1hp B&D routers in the stores, it makes me want to gag.

I made the mistake of loaning it to my bother about five years ago. To get it back, I went out and bought him one of the newer plastic junk routers and traded it to him for the old one. Damned if that's the last time I loan it to *anyone*.

[Leon]

I recall the first routers that DeWalt came out with looked exactly like that B&D router. Except for being yellow.

[Swingman]

40 years +/-, and still going strong.

[Swingman]

'Bout the same time "professional" carpenters started becoming extinct, and getting boob jobs for TV. ;)

[dpb]

On 9/24/2013 10:38 PM, Leon wrote: ...

And that was the man DeWalt, not yet the company he formed...

[Leon]

DAMN That scared me when you turned it on! I had the sound turned up.