This is not about work computing, this is about home computing. They
believe that my time at home is an extension of their time.
They believe any negativity is a poor reflection of them. So if I were
to call you a name here on my time, my computer, my network, it would
violate their policy, and could lead to my termination.
As far as that guy using their equipment to rip DVDs he was an idiot.
That violates other agreements big time.
We are all going to be plain vanilla people going forward. No one will
be any different than the next. All men will wear dresses and all woman
the pants, since that is what society is expecting of us. Men are now
encouraged to not exhibit any hostility... any hostility means we are
abnormal.... funny, I thought that's what made us men....
What made this country great... having the balls to explore and go out
in tough environments .. the meek followed. We are repeatedly being told
that this is bad behavior not acceptable. Anger must be controlled. It
would be F'd up if some idiot walked around punching people in the face,
but controlling everything to the Nth degree is preventing everyone from
being themselves, that's not acceptable. We need to explore and
sometimes slap someone around verbally ... it's natural. For companies
to say no you can't is the beginning of the end.
I don't understand that policy. It should be illegal. Because by
extension, they could force you to vote for a particular political
candidate. Or at least you would be prohibited from
voicing any opinion in favor of a candidate who is opposed to anything
the company likes, or from
voicing any opinion against a candidate who is in favor of something the
Has to be illegal.
What woodchucker relates about his company sounds likes intellectual
slavery - suppression of free speech. Don't misunderstand me, there are
laws against slander, and as a supervisor I would definitely take into
account what a person says about company, coworkers etc. But stifling
constructive criticism is just stupid.
I have been lucky in my professional life that my direct supervisor was
always very supportive. Which didn't hold me back from saying things
when I thought he was wrong. (Sometimes needing to use "reverse
psychology" to get my points across).
No one here would say I never say stupid things <grin>.
On Tue, 08 Jan 2013 15:53:08 -0500, woodchucker <nospam.nospam.com>
If they really think your time is theirs, to that degree, it's
certainly not a place I would work. Overtime is one thing (I agreed
to do the work). Owning my inventions/patents is OK (I just won't
bother on my own time). But owning my thoughts after I've left work, I
don't think so.
Can't have *any* individuality. Vote Democratic. "You didn't make
When I worked for IBM, the policy was simple; do whatever you want on
the Internet but remember you are representing IBM. They didn't much
appreciate their 9. Class-A address topping the playboy.com list,
Some companies believe their employees are grownups, at least until
proven otherwise. Where I work now, the Internet is locked down so
tightly it's almost unusable. I bring my own laptop and use my cell
phone as a hotspot (as I am now). I often have to use it for work use
because they won't let me get to some sites that I need to do my work.
Paranoia trumps productivity.
Given that level of paranoia, you shouldn't be posting at all. All
ISPs operate is under those same rules.
In come the days of paranoia.
That's why I carry my own laptop (though I wouldn't rip DVDs, in any
Durn right he wasn't thinking. Making unauthorized copies of copyrighted
material is a
crime. Knucklehead committed a crime on company time, using company resources.
were right to fire him.
When I was fresh out of college, about <mumble> years ago, the company I was
hired a guy who apparently had a gambling problem. From time to time, he would
bookie at lunchtime (from the company phone) and place a couple bets on horse
(illegal at that time in that state). Being still wet behind the ears, I figured
it wasn't really my
place to say anything about what someone senior to me was doing on his own time,
did think it was stupid to use the company phone, when there was a pay phone
the street. Then one day Knucklehead called the bookie in the middle of the
decided it was time to say something, but before I could move a muscle, my
was already on her feet and heading to the boss's office. Next morning, around
Knucklehead wasn't at work yet (not unusual), Boss walked in, said "I have an
announcement. As of last night, <name> is no longer with us. At my request." and
out. And that was that.
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