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I was at Walmart the other day getting a tire repaired. As I wandered around the store, I came up the 'furniture' aisle and saw an unfinished spruce/pine chest. It was crudely made of rough milled (read construction wood) and warped 1x4, rough cut ends, badly fitted and nailed together with a pallet nail gun. Only 49$. This thing makes Ikea knock down furniture look like heirloom craftmanship.
Puts a whole new perspective on things. The next time I beat myself up for the flaws I see in my finished stuff I'll go wandering through Walmart.
I got to get out more.
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snipped-for-privacy@mts.net wrote:

You're only seeing one side of the picture. You're forgetting that Walmart screws their employees out of benefits.
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And that is related to the quality of the furniture they sell exactly how...?
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wrote:

Screws them out of benefits? Are you saying that Walmart tells their employees that they are going to receive benefits but don't actually give them to them?
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RicodJour wrote:

I'm no fan of Wal Mart but would like to know how "Walmart screws their employees out of benefits."
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RayV wrote:

It's my understanding that the benefits are so expensive that the low wage workers can't afford them (only management can).. So the cashier/stockers can't afford benefits. Whether that's screwing them or not is a matter of perspective, I guess. I boycott Walmart (for various reasons), but I don't want to get in an argument about them here... I know there's people here that buy everything there.
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If the worker pays for it out of pocket then it's not "benefits".

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Sure they are. If you get employee health insurance at work for, say $50 a month, yet the insurance company is charging the employer $300 a month for it, what do you call the $250 picked up by the company?
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Or even if the company is only paying $50 and the employee is paying $250, it's still a benefit. Heck, the employer could not pay anything and it could still be a benefit if the employer size allows the employees to get discounted rates.
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No body makes them work there. They are not "screwing" their employees out of anything.
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I never rant but there is always the exception.
I love Walmart when I need to by cheap shit. They have the best. I think there is a union crowd that hates Walmart and they are aligned with the same crowd that thinks a minimum wage job should pay enough to raise a family. Walmart has cheap jobs for unskilled people. Whats so bad about that. I agree we need a minimum wage but some concept that says every job should provide full benefits and enough money to live on is just socialism and we decided not to go that route a few hundered years ago. Get used to it.
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SonomaProducts.com wrote:

How about getting used to being forced to work "off the clock"?
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/10/13/business/main2088901.shtml
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How about _not_ "getting used to it", filing a lawsut, and collecting damages? Because that's what that story is reporting.
That has nothing to do with benefits or wage levels.
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Again, nobody makes them work there. Nobody "forces" them to work off the clock (though I'm sure that is an isolated instance... no company has perfect managers)
As Sonoma said, Walmart provides jobs, it's up to the job marketplace to determine how well those jobs pay. When the demand goes up for that valuable unskilled labor, I am sure we will see a raise in pay.
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Locutus wrote:

Walmart has also been busted numerous times for paying below minimum wage to illegal aliens.
They've also cost a lot of Americans jobs by encouraging/helping/forcing manufacturers to move overseas.
State Governments have to pay a lot of money in health care benefits to those walmart workers that don't have insurance.. that's your and my money.
Sure, nobody forces anyone to work at Walmart, but Walmart is certainly not a model coorporate citizen. In the end, I'm not sure it's helped America (other than the Waltons) that Walmart has grown so big.
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bf wrote:

Have a source for that statement?

Only uninsured Wal Mart employees get health care from the taxpayers?
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Wal*Mart bashers seem to think so.
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Of course, Walmart is the only company that doesn't offer full medical benefits... besides my company... :(
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RayV wrote:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/walmart/transform/employment.html
Some of Walmart's practices are just plain sketchy. It's not good business, and it's certainly not what people would consider "the American Way".

of Suffolk County, New York, claims that while she worked at Wal-Mart as a customer service manager, Wal-Mart supervisors locked her in the store with her co-employees after the store closed when all employees were "off-the-clock." Ms. Gamble described her experiences at Wal-Mart:
"When I worked at Wal-Mart, we were routinely expected to work at times when we were not paid. The worst part of this was we were locked-in to the store at night. Every week, I worked at least one shift that went from 2 p.m. to 10 p.m. or 3 p.m. to 11 p.m. When the store closed at the end of my shift, the manager or the person closing the store would lock the exterior doors but the hourly employees like me would have to remain in the store and restock merchandise and count out the cash registers, even though we had already clocked off and were not getting paid. The tasks we had to do after the store closed always took at least an hour-and-a-half, and often two hours. The doors weren't unlocked until the work was completed. There were other ways in which I wasn't paid for time I was working, as well, such as mandatory attendance at unpaid meetings, and times I had to work through lunch and breaks."

http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2004/08/02_walmart.shtml
Walmart keeps pushing everything down. Sounds great, right? What's not to like about low low prices? It's how they're pushing down and what gets squeezed out.
I had to laugh at the comments about no one holding a gun to Walmart employees' heads. Walmart comes in and a bunch of businesses go out. Due to the economies of scale, which dictates everything that Walmart does, they don't need as many employees as the other stores would have required. Those out of work people are now looking for jobs to support their families and the jobs that are available in the area are Walmart jobs paying substantially lower wages. Ask yourself the question, what would you do if you were on one of the lower rungs of the economic ladder and needed to put food on the table. You'd do about anything - even work for Walmart.
You're kidding yourself if you think that Walmart's practices only affect the employees. If you want to contrast their employment practices with another, similar warehouse store, check out Costco. Entirely different corporate culture, far better employment practices and still damn profitable. That's the American way.
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Since you are not an American, it doesn't surprise me that you don't know jack about the American way.
Capitalism is the American way, and Wal-mart is a shining example of that. The good part about the American way is that others have the opportunity to compete with Wal-Mart, if no one is currently capable of doing that, that isn't Wal-mart's fault.
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