Mission Chair Reproduction 2013

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On 2/24/2013 1:28 AM, Dave wrote:

work, he planned on delivering it, or getting close, time in hindsight wasn't on his side. He shipped it to me on his dime, very generous man.
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On 2/21/2013 9:41 AM, Swingman wrote:

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Scroll to the end ... I'm far from being out of the woods on these curve. Chair legs with two radii of the magnitude are a PITA ..
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On Monday, March 4, 2013 6:40:15 PM UTC-6, Swingman wrote:

For a long time, I've liked front porch chairs and rockers. Every opportun ity I've had, I would speak to old timers about their chair making.
Long ago, one old timer told me how to easily make a double curve on the ba ckrest support and continuous with/onto the (lower) leg, when creating/desi gning a chair from scratch. Maybe others had used or knew of this, but it never occured to me to try it, so I was impressed and have never forgotten. *A slap in the face of how easy and simple it is. I recall,(I thought I knew it all) my "educated" ass was taught a good lesson about the common se nse of such things, that day.
It went something like: "If the upper curve is on 3', then, to make the lo wer curve with a sharper curve, shorten your same string with a nail, on th e same sweep." I was trying to understand his French and I don't speak or understand French very well.
Anchor (focal point) your 3' string and sweep your pencil, at the other end , to make the upper curve. At the point you want to start making your lowe r curve, and for it to be graciously continuous with the upper curve/sweep, put a nail 6" closer to the pencil. As you make your upper sweep mark, th e string hits the nail and the nail becomes the new focal point. The short er length/radius continues the sweep, hence making the lower curve a sharpe r turn. There's an infinite number of different double curves to make by p ositioning the nail at different distances.
Visiting with old timers is, often, as much a pleasure as woodworking, itse lf.
And, Karl.... your chair is looking good, too!
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All parts done, sanding and glue-up and it's toast.
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"Swingman" wrote in message

Ah... the home stretch! Do you do the upholstery too or farm that out?
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On 3/13/2013 1:16 PM, John Grossbohlin wrote:

No, that's up to the client, as well as the staining finishing. (but I will do the seat frames for her, which for these chairs is simply 1/2" plywood).
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I know that you are making some "matching" chairs. To my critical eye, I am sure I would notice the difference. I suppose that most people would not. Is that in any way a concern for the clients?
To be clear about this, the reason I would notice the difference is that I always go under the furniture to see how it was put together. Between actually building furniture and inspecting it enough, I know my way around this topic. My wife, who is a quilter, can look at any quilt and tell you all kinds of details that I would never guess. So, if you have special knowledge, this kind of thing becomes easy. But most people just don't notice the details that much.
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On 3/13/2013 1:21 PM, Lee Michaels wrote:

Not sure I understand. Is what a concern?
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between the mass manufactured version and the hand made in Karl's shop version?
I find it interesting that you are making a far superior version of the chair. But they will end up looking alike.
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On 3/13/2013 1:56 PM, Lee Michaels wrote:

Hopefully not ... a faithful reproduction with regard to look and style was sorta the whole idea. :)
And, as long as the client is happy, I could care less.

Never underestimate the fact that putting time, effort, and money where it can't be seen goes a long way to insuring that you can make a living at what you enjoy doing. :)
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On 3/13/2013 1:21 PM, Lee Michaels wrote:

For beginners, Karl did not use the big ass staples to hold the front legs like the factory did, these chairs are far superior to the factory sets.
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notice the difference. I think I would. Just because I get nosy and stick my head underneath the wood furniture item to see what it is made of. If they looked identical, and I just looked under one, I wouldn't notice. But if I looked at two and saw a difference, I would immediately investigate al the chairs.
I am also sensitive to colors. And if the finish was just a little off, I would probably notice it.
I should mention that I knew a guy who worked for a local finish company. His job was to match a finish with anything that somebody brought through the door. He was very good. The finishes were tricky and involved. But if you wanted a match, they would mix it up for you. You would bring in some scrap and they would put several different mixes onto the wood. A day or two later, they would have it perfect. Or if you were in a hurry, they would dry the finish with a hair dryer. I have seen a number of repaired and replacement furniture with absolutely perfect matches. He had an eye. I could never do that.
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On Wednesday, March 13, 2013 4:22:33 PM UTC-6, Leon wrote:

On a similar note, much of today's upholstered furniture has lots of staple d butt joints, often with no glue, no dowels, etc. Sometimes there's a thi n ply piece spanning a butt joint, with only staples attaching the ply.
For anyone, I recommend finding the much better made old furniture and have it reupholstered. For a woodworker, once the upholsterer removes the old fabric/padding, you can repair any internal damage/loose joints properly, i f the upholsterer doesn't repair wood parts (Some don't. They just cover u p what's there, unless otherwise instructed).
.... Or maybe we could send our broken furniture to Karl and he'll repair i t, really well, - for free?
Sonny
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On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 13:06:03 -0500, Swingman wrote:

https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopMissionChairReproduction2013#5854886302188892418 Good deal, they look really nice.
I have made a few chair like objects, one was so uncomfortable that it couldn't have been used as an electric chair for fear of cruel and unusual punishment.
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On 3/13/13 1:06 PM, Swingman wrote:

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Dey sho iz purdy!
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Looks great Karl!!
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