Scroll to the end ... I'm far from being out of the woods on these
curve. Chair legs with two radii of the magnitude are a PITA ..
On Monday, March 4, 2013 6:40:15 PM UTC-6, Swingman wrote:
For a long time, I've liked front porch chairs and rockers. Every opportun
ity I've had, I would speak to old timers about their chair making.
Long ago, one old timer told me how to easily make a double curve on the ba
ckrest support and continuous with/onto the (lower) leg, when creating/desi
gning a chair from scratch. Maybe others had used or knew of this, but it
never occured to me to try it, so I was impressed and have never forgotten.
*A slap in the face of how easy and simple it is. I recall,(I thought I
knew it all) my "educated" ass was taught a good lesson about the common se
nse of such things, that day.
It went something like: "If the upper curve is on 3', then, to make the lo
wer curve with a sharper curve, shorten your same string with a nail, on th
e same sweep." I was trying to understand his French and I don't speak or
understand French very well.
Anchor (focal point) your 3' string and sweep your pencil, at the other end
, to make the upper curve. At the point you want to start making your lowe
r curve, and for it to be graciously continuous with the upper curve/sweep,
put a nail 6" closer to the pencil. As you make your upper sweep mark, th
e string hits the nail and the nail becomes the new focal point. The short
er length/radius continues the sweep, hence making the lower curve a sharpe
r turn. There's an infinite number of different double curves to make by p
ositioning the nail at different distances.
Visiting with old timers is, often, as much a pleasure as woodworking, itse
And, Karl.... your chair is looking good, too!
I know that you are making some "matching" chairs. To my critical eye, I am
sure I would notice the difference. I suppose that most people would not.
Is that in any way a concern for the clients?
To be clear about this, the reason I would notice the difference is that I
always go under the furniture to see how it was put together. Between
actually building furniture and inspecting it enough, I know my way around
this topic. My wife, who is a quilter, can look at any quilt and tell you
all kinds of details that I would never guess. So, if you have special
knowledge, this kind of thing becomes easy. But most people just don't
notice the details that much.
notice the difference. I think I would. Just because I get nosy and stick
my head underneath the wood furniture item to see what it is made of. If
they looked identical, and I just looked under one, I wouldn't notice. But
if I looked at two and saw a difference, I would immediately investigate al
I am also sensitive to colors. And if the finish was just a little off, I
would probably notice it.
I should mention that I knew a guy who worked for a local finish company.
His job was to match a finish with anything that somebody brought through
the door. He was very good. The finishes were tricky and involved. But if
you wanted a match, they would mix it up for you. You would bring in some
scrap and they would put several different mixes onto the wood. A day or
two later, they would have it perfect. Or if you were in a hurry, they
would dry the finish with a hair dryer. I have seen a number of repaired
and replacement furniture with absolutely perfect matches. He had an eye. I
could never do that.
On Wednesday, March 13, 2013 4:22:33 PM UTC-6, Leon wrote:
On a similar note, much of today's upholstered furniture has lots of staple
d butt joints, often with no glue, no dowels, etc. Sometimes there's a thi
n ply piece spanning a butt joint, with only staples attaching the ply.
For anyone, I recommend finding the much better made old furniture and have
it reupholstered. For a woodworker, once the upholsterer removes the old
fabric/padding, you can repair any internal damage/loose joints properly, i
f the upholsterer doesn't repair wood parts (Some don't. They just cover u
p what's there, unless otherwise instructed).
.... Or maybe we could send our broken furniture to Karl and he'll repair i
t, really well, - for free?
On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 13:06:03 -0500, Swingman wrote:
Good deal, they look really nice.
I have made a few chair like objects, one was so uncomfortable that it
couldn't have been used as an electric chair for fear of cruel and unusual
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