Kitchen countertop project -- installation complete

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Noooo. Water based contact cement sucks. Although it is a lot better than it was a few years ago. If you have the controlled set-up which deals with temperature and humidity and you acclimatise your materials, water based can work very well in a production setting. That would include very strong pinch rollers as well.
This stuff I'm talking about is about as bullet-proof a system as I have seen in over 30 years. It is flammable but no ozone damaging CFC crap. The adhesive is high solids. It sprays on with a web-like pattern on your substrate and you do your laminate piece with a 90-degree orientation relative to you first spray. Less is more. You do not want to see puddles or bubbles, in fact, it looks like you're not putting on enough, but try it. You'll get a chuckle out of how fricking strong that shit is.
I googled a few sources for you:
http://hoganhardwoods.com/hogan/pages/products/06_SpecialtyPrd/adhesives.htm
http://www.mcfaddens.com/Catalogue/Adhesives/IASpraySystems.htm
http://www.hardwoodweb.com/pdf/catalogue_adhesives.pdf
The stuff you're after is the Imperial Permagrip 157 (the 107 is too fast) Comes in clear and green, and under Formica brand also in red. The green is my preference, it is not green like paint, more translucent. I can see it better. More like a light snot green.... in the beginning of a cold.

Hey, most solid surface distributors will sell strips.
I'll try to find some time to take a couple of pictures of some samples tomorrow. Stuff sells itself and makes an honest buck.

There'd be no doubt in my mind. You guys have mosquitos down there?
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I followed the first two links and saw what you were talking about. Interesting, I had never seen that stuff. It sure does look like a propane bottle.

OK, allright. Buddy, you have been in the field too long. To define the actual color of snot to make your point... it sure made me laugh, though. Hey, and I knew what color you were talking about!

I would really like to see them. If you want, zap them to me directly at
nailgarbageshootertrash@sbcglobaldotnet
Just take out the garbage, trash and the dot.

Nope, haven't had for a while. We have had near drought for about five years and even when there was an extended period of rain this year there were so few that they never were a problem. Until this year I literally hadn't seen any except once or twice for the entire year for the past 3 - 4.
Now where Swing and Leon live, that's different. When sundown comes, you need to make sure you are in a safe place if they have had rainy weather. Just image.... Hueys coming down low over the ocean.... lots of Huey gunships... they music comes up.... the opening strains of "Das Valkyrie" are heard.... so Apocolyptic... those are the kind of flying blood suckers they have.
That's Houston. Born there, spent part of my childhood there, worked there, still visit my sister there. If there is anything for Texas braggin' take it from me that there is no exaggeration when talking about Houston/Galveston 'skeeters. Literally (honestly) you can hear some of them when they fly by your ears. When splayed out, leg to leg there are some that will cover a quarter. Talk about raising a welt. And they can come in clouds. After a long rain spell, the city still drives the trucks up and down the street spraying insecticide into the air.
Might explain a little about the folks living there... '^)
Robert
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Ya got to have a chuckle now and again, eh?

Later this aft.

Got the visual! I absolutely hate the damned things. We had the opportunity to borrow a cottage at the foot of the Confederation Bridge (Runs from New Brunswick to Prince Edward Island) on the St. Lawrence. Yummy, fresh clams etc.. but noooo, mosquitos big enough they need FAA registration numbers. I asked one of the locals why nobody ever built docks for their boats. "Naa" he said, "The skeeters use them to land on." I saw one latch onto the ass of a horse, and by the time it was done taking a drink, the rider's feet were dragging on the ground. We stayed for a couple of hours. There was no fighting them. They didn't give a damn about some pretty serious repellant either. I blew a couple of cans of fog and all they did was high-5 each other yelling " Hey! That's out brand!" When I saw them riffling through our luggage looking for souvenirs, it was time to leave.

Yowsa....LOL..expect some feedback there, bro'.
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Nah.. no math error. It would be a snap to take a heat-gun and flip off the laminate face and biscuit on a strip of wood...
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Robatoy said:

I was being a wiseass.
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Oh NOESSSSS!!! A wiseass on the WRECK!!!
WHaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!11111!!!!!eleventy!!!!!
nyuk.
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Looks nice, but instead of 102 hours, you could have rolled on a coat of gloss enamel in 30 minutes or less.
I bet you added thousands to the value of your house too! And you have a happy wife.
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Countertops like that are a part of what I do professionally.
To do some quick math... figure on about $ 65.00 per lineal foot (count the corners twice)... that would be dealer cost. In my shop, with my specialised gear and experience: Day 1. Make the substrate and glue on the edges. prep back splashes. Day 2. Lay up the laminate and trim. Cut mitres (Not really applicable in this case) and build back splashes and finish wood. Day 3. Deliver Install and cut in sink and install back splashes. 48 man/hrs (Many hours are double duty as there are other things going on while adhesives set up, etc) That job would come in at just under $2K. After labour and materials, I'd do okay.
at 102 hours, fetching your own material, and pondering... you probably saved yourself an easy G-note or more.
Good job!
r
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Robatoy wrote:

Thanks for satisfying my curiosity; I was kind of wondering what it would have cost to have done. BTW, the 102 hours includes demo and tearout of a few (maybe 10 or so) hours. Finding those drywall screws under the quick-set took some time; I couldn't just crowbar everything off for fear of destroying the base cabinets.

Cool, then taking into account for the $279 I spent on the trim router (obligatory new tool for a project), I came out way ahead.

Thanks

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Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

Thanks. The gloss enamel idea didn't survive 5 seconds. ;-)

Oh yeah.
Thanks for the kind words
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