Jesada ist Kapoot

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I placed an order online for a set of jointer blades with Jesada in late September. Got an email confirmation right away that the order was received. Well, a month later I still have not received the order. I try to call, the phone is disconnected. I email, I get no response. I checked my credit card statement and I see no charge. Well, I guess they're not in business anymore. Having wasted a month waiting, now I must place an order with somebody else and hope Jesada doesn't ship the duplicates. Jeez.
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Umm... I heard-tell in this NG they got up and in with another company, like bought-out but, I don't remember who they are now. DAGS in this NG for " Jesada " and you'll find that post/reply. It was only like within two weeks ago.
Alex
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I think you mean Infinity. JG
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Infinity and Jesada are/were owned by the same holding company at one time. I spoke with the guy from Infinity a few weeks ago and he says that the last he heard that Jesada was selling out their inventory at the woodworking shows. Infinity used to buy there bits from Jesada, but now buy them from other manufacturers around the world. Infinity has jointer blades by rhe way. Scott
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They had a pretty poor booth setup at the Minneapolis Woodworkers Show about a week and a half ago. It looked like they were selling leftovers. Also, the guy manning the booth didn't know anything about their products or even how to read their price list.
However, I think that they were taking orders. I don't suppose they would do that if they were going belly up and knew about it. Would they?
Eric
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snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.com (mnterpfan) wrote:

The guy manning the booth wouldn't know about it.
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Happy Woodworking,
David Venditto Infinity Tools
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On 27 Oct 2004 13:38:27 -0700, snipped-for-privacy@infinitytools.com (David Venditto) wrote:

Thanks, David, for posting here. Your father, Carlo, posted periodically on the old Badger Pond forum. It's a shame he sold Jesada, because while he was running the store, service was excellent and the bits enjoyed a good reputation.
According to everything I've read including the lawsuit, however, Carlo worked for CMT, not Freud (not ruling out the possibility that he might have worked for Freud at some point), and as a result of the lawsuit, started Jesada. Actually, as I understand it, the settlement of the suit caused him to change the name from CMT USA (or something like that) and the color from orange to white.
It's my recollection that you are the DA in Jesada.
What I find distressing, however, in all of this is that you are in the Tampa Bay area. According to the article you cited, you do or did business with the post-Carlo Jesada. Yet there doesn't seem to be anyone willing to step up and say, "yes, Jesada is in trouble/gone/reorganizing" or "no, Jesada is fine; they just aren't answering phones or email, or delivering."
The trouble is, everyone seems to dance around the question of whether Jesada is delivering consumer product or not.
Whether you like it or not, the Venditto name is linked with Jesada; and their performance, rightly or wrongly, is associated with whatever business you run. That's why the question keeps coming up.
You are free to make your own decisions about how to run your business, but a clear, distinct statement completely disassociating you from Jesada would certainly ease the uncertaintly felt by many potential Infinity customers.
I hope you continue to keep in touch here.
- - LRod
Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite
Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999
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Thanks LRod for the history. Yeah David, it's time to come clean.

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Hello forum members,
I wanted to take this opportunity to clear the air regarding any questions relating to my company, Infinity Tools.
My father, Carlo, sold his business, Jesada Tools, about 3-1/2 years ago. The new owners did not have much luck with the business and ran into trouble. I don't think they are in business any longer but I have not received confirmation of this.
After the sale of Jesada I worked in another industry until I realized I missed woodworking. This is when Corey Spann who had started Infinity Tools about one year earlier approached me. Corey wanted to pursue other opportunities and I wanted to get back into the manufacture and design of woodcutting tools. This is how I became involved with Infinity.
Infinity Tools is NOT Jesada resurrected. When Infinity was first started, a few items were made to our spec in the Jesada factory, which was the extent of our relationship. This arraignment was no different than our relationship with all of our other suppliers.
Some of the Infinity Tools products resemble the Jesada products because I have designed the entire line according to the engineering that produced the quality at Jesada. ALL Infinity products are DESIGNED and ENGINEERED in the USA. Infinity products are coated with a Silver Teflon, not White and we do not sell any other bits except our own.
We currently have products made to my specification in the U.S.A., Italy, and Taiwan. I provide design; engineering and material spec's for all of our products, regardless of which partner factory we use.
If any of you have any questions regarding Jesada, Infinity Tools or routing please call me directly at 1-877-872-2487 and I would be happy to speak with you.
Also, If you are interested in reading some Infinity product reviews please visit our home page and follow the links, www.infinitytools.com
If you would like to read an in depth article regarding our company this link may be of interest to you: http://www.newwoodworker.com/infinqa.html
Thank's for your time.
David Venditto Infinity Tools
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On 28 Oct 2004 09:04:09 -0700, snipped-for-privacy@infinitytools.com (David Venditto) wrote:

The one where you proudly claim "We do not have products made in China."
So where's Taiwan ?
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Andy,
Last time I checked, Taiwan was generally east of China. Seperated by a body of water and deeply held difference in polotics and the populations right to self direct. Taiwan and China also have vastly different manufaturing capabilties when it comes to quality and precision.
Bernie
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On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:52:28 +0100, Andy Dingley

C'mon Andy. You know damned well that Taiwanese toolmakers are light years ahead of their Chinese equivalents. (But the Chinese are up-and-coming.)
While Taiwan is now technically "owned" by China, distinctions do apply.
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On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:35:11 -0700, Larry Jaques

Taiwan _IS_ the real China ! Anyone who reckons otherwise must be some kind of Commie Stooge.
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On 27 Oct 2004 13:38:27 -0700, snipped-for-privacy@infinitytools.com (David Venditto) wrote:

I couldn't give a flying ferret's ass about your company, whether you're part of Jesada or not.
You've just email spammed me. Worse than that, I strongly suspect you've done it by scraping email addresses from this newsgroup. That means you've lost at least one customer over here and I hope you lose a whole lot more.
--
Smert' spamionam

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(David Venditto)

Hi Andy -
Funny - I got one too.... I think you're correct...
Cheers -
Rob
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Ditto for me.
GTO(John) <scratches Infinity off shopping list>
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On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:56:57 +0000, GTO69RA4 wrote:

...and infinity emails into the spam bucket.
-Doug
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Doug Winterburn wrote:

Got to wonder if the addresses came from the old Jesada mailing list John
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No - not an old mailing list. My current personal email address is only a few months old. He either got it off usenet or bought a mailing list from someone. It is nothing but pure spam.
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