I am looking at the delta or pm 66. I saw some great threads on the
general 350, but i am hearing that parts may be a problem in the
states....anyway, i am ready to dump 2K on a great saw, and I am
looking at the 5HP delta x5 uni, or the PM66. Most reviews give the
nod to the 66, but I know that Jet has owned PM for two years now....I
am curious if this is still truly an american made saw.
any help in deciding is greatly appreciated....
Ya know, for that kind of money one could seriously look at a well made
vintage machine such as an older Unisaw or PM and probably end up with a far
superior saw than a late model for less money. Theres some real good
bargains out there to be had.
On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 18:11:59 GMT, "James D Kountz"
I hear this all the time, but two years later I gave up the search and
dropped the cash on a General. It's gotta be a locality thing.
I searched print, web, eBay, and local industrial tool dealers for
used cabinet saws on a very regular basis. I left my phone number
EVERYWHERE! What I found was junk, hundreds if not thousands of miles
away, or usable stuff that you'd swear was gold plated for what the
A good example: A fenceless dust door less, rusted, 3 phase, 3 HP
Unisaw for $800, firm. It's been for sale for two years. <G>
I had sold machinery for years and in all the years of my experence I
have never ran across a good used tablesaw at a fair price. If it was
in good shape: the son, the neighbor, or a guy at work always got it
first. If it was in poor shape and needed major work, then That is
what they wanted to trade-in. Finding a good used Unisaw or
Powermatic 66 is darn hard. Keep looking and perhaps "dreaming". You
might get lucky.
Mike from American Sycamore
I have about given up on finding a used pm 66 or delta unisaw. I have about
decided on a pm 66, but shopping on the internet all I can find is Amazon
affiliates, all at the same price.
I just noticed on eBay some one offering to tell you how to buy a Delta
Unisaw for $1200 delivered. I could probably be persuaded to switch to
Delta if I could buy a Unisaw for that price. Any one know anything about
Paul Gilbert in New Orleans.
Every reasonably large metro area should have at least machinery dealer
selling the Powermatic 66. Here in Minneapolis, I can think of three
dealers off the top of my head.
Bay Verte Machinery in Green Bay has great deals on Powermatic stuff.
$700 for a bandsaw most places sell for $819 to $849. They even had a 10%
off day in December that lowered the price even more.
On 6 Jan 2004 18:36:24 -0800, firstname.lastname@example.org (Mike at American
When I was looking for a used PM66, I looked for many months. While I
looked, I was socking away $100 a month. I figured I either find a
used one or eventually save enough to buy a new one. I ended up
buying a brand new Powermatic 66.
I keep hearing "buy used" but all I ever see is ads for Craftsman table saw,
good condition, $100 and Shopsmiths for close to original prices. .
The day after I bought my Delta contractor's saw, I did see a Unisaw
advertised, but it was only a couple of hundred below list.
, but I know that Jet has owned PM for two years now....I
Just to pick a nit here and clarify something.... Jet does not own
Powermatic. The WMH Tool Group is a parent company which owns Jet,
Performax and some other lesser tool companies. WMH has also acquired
Powermatic now. So it isn't Jet which owns Powermatic. Rather, both
Jet and Powermatic are owned by the same parent company. Kind of
sibling tool companies with the same parents I guess... :o)
On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 03:43:37 GMT, B a r r y B u r k e J r .
I'm pretty sure I am. I gotta make that decision soon. I'm only
hedging a bit because that 40 mile trip one-way with my 11
mile-per-gallon F-250 is gonna take a bigger chunk out of my pay
versus the 15 mile trip to Norwich! That's 80 miles per day versus 30.
The boss really wants me (which was nice to hear) especially for
running the anticipated woodworking classes. And to me, that's what I
really like to do. It was the main reason I took the job at the
Norwich store last June.The classes I was running at the Norwich store
were a lot of fun. The group of folks who came to the classes were
some very nice people and we had a lot of laughs. It got especially
funny whenever I would make a boo-boo and screw something up. They
didn't let me hear the end of t! But it was all good-natured kidding.
I told them all that I was not a woodworking guru or anything like
that, but I did have some stuff in my 52 year old brain that I could
Some of the things we had fun with were....
Making half-blind dovetails using a jig
Making raised panel doors using a set of cutters and a router table
Making basic kitchen cabinets
Various table saw techniques
Making flat, square boards using a jointer and a planer
Mortise and tenon joints using a dedicated mortiser and a TS tenon jig
We even built a complete fireplace facade and mantle out of solid oak!
Now, you may look at this list and see a pattern here....the use of
commercial jigs and tools. Well heck yes..! I was teaching for a
tool store and the object was to show how to use the tools we sold.
The classes were free btw! :o)
If this deal truly comes to pass, it'd be my pleasure to meet you.
Just come on in and ask for me! I'll be the tall guy with the white
There's a mid-90's Toyota Corolla for sale for $2800 down the block
from me. <G>
Look for an older Honda or Toyota sedan, something not attractive to
the Rice Boy. Grandma colors can help you get an even better deal on
one. For that matter, short bed, ultra base model Toyota pickups,
with the 22R 4 cylinder engine, are great on gas and ultra reliable.
Those were nice trucks, but they only got about 15mpg. My '87
overheated and was never the same. I'm thinking about buying another
one for trips to the dump and lumberyard. That 108HP was more than
enough for anything I could throw at it.
email@example.com (bosco) wrote in message
The Powermatic 66 is still made in the USA, the trunion is still
superior to the Jet (or Unisaw), and it's still a fine saw. Of its
type, the Powermatic 66 and General 350 are the best. I would give
the nod to Powematic because the accufence, IMHO, is better than the
Anyhow, I'm changing saws in a month or so and will have a Powermatic
66 for sale in the Minneapolis area. It's a 3 year old PM66, w/ 3hp,
single phase Baldor motor, 50" fence. It has an Exaktor overarm
guard, Beis splitter, and HTC outfeed rollers installed. It will also
come with various inserts, a large crosscut jig (handles 30" wide
panels, incra track, etc), and Incra 2000 miter fence w/new flipstop
and track. It's been used as a hobby saw only. BTW, I will also have
a PM60 8" jointer and DW733 planer for sale then too. The reason I'm
selling is that I'm getting a large Minimax combo machine. I haven't
figured out my asking price yet.
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