Hehehe, he is definately not a user of "Palmolive" if you remember that
ad. I have always noticed that too but I enjoy the fact that he is on TV
as my hands have looked like that occasionally. Nothing worse than
seeing a set of manicured nails running an antique jointing plane. It
kinda goes against the grain.
We have only been in our current location for a year and just found him
on WV PBS Saturday afternoons. Its great that they put all the shows in
a block, TOH, NYW, RWS, TVG, WRS, etc... however we miss them a lot
because if the sun is shinning we are not infront of the TV and we dont
I just read a post in another thread from Charlie Self that some of
Underhills funding was cut which will be sad. Hope its not enough to
affect his show... Dunno...
I don't know the level of funding Woodcraft supplied, but it IS sad, not "will
The cut was made about a year ago.
"The California crunch really is the result of not enough power-generating
plants and then not enough power to power the power of generating plants."
George W. Bush
Roy is a re-creational woodworker. Norm is a recreational woodworker.
If you're process over product, you'll favor Roy.
What is that old saying - "work smarter, not harder?" Seems to favor Norm.
So who is the real poseur?
Uh, Norm builds a whole object, usually a more complex one than Roy's
typical project, and starts from raw lumber. Roy shows the techniques
to accomplish a given project, but never finishes, and notice he has
two or three partially completed items sitting around so he can skip
over some time-consuming steps. Roy has a do-it-all-in-one-take policy
for his show. No edits, no retakes, you see all the mistakes and slips
as they happened. Considering that, Roy does a heck of a good job in
a half hour show, but clearly he spends a lot of time researching,
setting up, making a test piece, making some partially complete pieces
and planning what things to show before the lights and camera start
working. Norm builds a proto-type, experiments with techniques,
plans what things to show, but also probably does retakes and obviously
his show is edited, not a one-take. I would not want to make a bet
on who puts in more time and effort for a show.
I enjoy both. Roy is more "fun" in a way, but Norm is more likely
to be building something I might actually want to build. Not that
I dislike Roy's stuff, just a lot of it is not stuff I would want
to build. I do enjoy the historical aspects and seeing how things
can be done with old hand tools. I'm just more likely to apply
a Roy technique to a Norm project than the other way around.
Actually, Roy is pretty much of a wise-ass all the time... I worked at
Colonial Williamsburg in the past and at various times shared housing with a
housewright, a couple blacksmiths, an interpreter, and an archeologist. The
archeologist was a woman and she was best of friends with Roy's wife Jane.
My lady friend's kid was at Roy's and Roy's kids at our place on a near
daily basis. I had my share of opportunities to hear him in action. ;-)
What? Roy Underhill is past Master Housewright at Colonial
Williamsburg. To try to reason _any_ thing about his ability or
talent from what you see on "The Woodwright's Shop" is futile.
Don't confuse style with content. Underhill has forgotten more about
woodcraft in all its forms than any 50 of us will ever know.
(Except Tom Planman, of course. But I'm not counting him because I'm
still convinced Tom Planman is really 6 people in one body.) :)
I used to watch his show all the time when I was a kid, and used to watch
TV. The stuff that guy can do with no electricity is amazing.
I just had a thought though. Those guys back yonder were using metal saws
and metal spokeshaves and metal plane irons and whatnot. That was still
high tech, relatively speaking.
I wonder what people did for furniture during the stone age... Gotta flake
that flint just right so you can make a cutter for your wood shaver. :)
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I can't say that I remember that episode, but I do recall watching a
show where he nicked himself and didn't stop working. As I musician,
I appreciate the "live" taping concept. In the recording studio, the
amateur can work for hours on perfecting something a real pro can do
"live" in one take. This is called t-a-l-e-n-t. Some have it, some
don't. And Roy oozes it (pun intended).
I have the upmost respect for Roy. His shows have taught me many
things. I now realize traditional woodworkers were forced with
product delivery constraints (sell/trade it or starve), large volumes
of manual labor machines perform with ease (hand sawing/planing), and
most of all, respect for hand tools (you don't need Norm's shop to
work with wood).
I hope a new sponsor realizes the large following he as and brings in
On 6 Aug 2003 08:10:34 -0700, email@example.com (Sam Schmenk)
Yes, he explains a lot about wood movement and why things
are assembled in such 'n such a way.
Yeah, like the successful hand-tool manufacturers like Knight,
Lee Valley, Williams, and Lie-Nielsen should be sponsors now.
Yes, that's a direct hint, guys. (That means YOU, Robin.)
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