Inkling. Now THIS excites me.

[Robatoy]

[Swingman]

circled were posting it "public".

Very cool ...

[Dave]

On Sun, 4 Sep 2011 10:14:50 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy

school real artists we'll lose inthe process? How many painters, musicians and even woodworkers will vanish?

"Time to build ourselves a new house". "You push the enter key on the CNC house maker and I'll go get lunch."

[Larry Jaques]

--LJ, still fartin' around with an old 6x9" ArtZ.

-- Live Simply. Speak Kindly. Care Deeply. Love Generously. -- anon

[Robatoy]

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I am on my 3rd Wacom tablet now, always upgrading to biggerbetterfaster. The current one is the PTK 440. What's exciting about the Inkling is that it is so small yet gives you an A4 (8.25- ish x 11-ish) surface, and I hope soon to be bigger as well. Hell, it almost fits the pocket protector on my shirt.

[Robatoy]

No threat to the artist, IMNSHO. You still need to have vision and an ability to put that down on paper. These tools do not conceptualize for you. Case in point: a local, and very successful contractor had bought this exquisite piece of lakefront property near here, and had asked a couple of his architect friends to give him a basic layout for a good sized mansion for himself. Nothing 'clicked' and many proposals were done in ArchiCAD and AutoCAD... Then an architect for whom I had done some computerized 3D modelling in the past, met me and the contractor at the site and with a 2B pencil sketched a house on a 11 x 17 piece of vellum. 30 minutes max.... the contractor fell in love with what he saw and ordered the plans. Price? 10% of the total cost of building. When he was sketching, he was taking advantage of the natural ravine edge and knew there was a lot of rock base, so in the end, the contractor still came out ahead in total cost as well.

Moral of the story: the high-tech architects didn't understand the contractor and didn't have the vision. Now, take an architect that has vision and communication skills...add high tech gear and you have a powerful package....assuming they don't get bogged down with SketchUp.

[Swingman]

And, the architect, in his first effort, would have most often designed something that had to be "field engineered" to completion, particularly if is not a square boxlike structure.

The third iteration is generally the one that causes the least trouble with both build and budget.

[Larry Jaques]

It fits, with all of Angie's Angry Birds in there already? You have a large size pocket protector, son.

-- Live Simply. Speak Kindly. Care Deeply. Love Generously. -- anon

[Robatoy]

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The Inkling Dimensions 2.8 in. (L) x 1.26 in. (D) x 0.67 in plus the pen. Easily fits in a pocket protector.

[Leon]

product. But I bought one of those for my son several years ago for Christmas. He never really used it much but IIRC the pen stored the information and it would then down up load to a computer. Back when I was doing research some of those type pens needed special lined/graphed paper.

[Steve]

Back in the day (20 or so years ago), Adobe had a wonderful little product called Streamline. Scan in line art, load the scan into Streamline, set your parameters, let 'er go. You had vector art created from a raster scan file, ready for further processing in Illustrator or (gasp!) Freehand. Inkling looks like the same idea, just skipping the scan. And it uses natural media (er, paper...).You can draw on a tablet, but it doesn't feel the same.*

Adobe later rolled the Streamline technology into Illustrator, but, like the standalone 3-D vector generator subsumed into Illustrator, it was just never as good as the original.

And don't get me started on that Flash crap.

*(Hey, you kids get off my lawn!)

[Robatoy]

LOL. I guess I'm a lot like that too. I used Streamline a LOT. It was/ is a great program.

[Dave]

On Sun, 4 Sep 2011 11:19:48 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy

Understand what you're saying, just not sure I agree with all of it. At the young age of 57, I have enough experience behind me to have developed practical skills that completely predate the digital revolution. Take writing for example. I now use a computer so much that I sometimes have difficulty writing things. More often or not, I'd print. The only real writing experience I get lately is signing my name on something and I've even screwed that up sometimes.

If that's happening to me, what kind of artistry experience are the digital age students going to get. Sure, there's always going to be some that continue the basic skills, but I'm betting they are starting to thin out.

Knew without a doubt you wouldn't be gone for long. This place is a second home for you.

[Larry Jaques]

I seem to recall a Corel product called Trace, back when I used v3. I never got it to work all that well for me.

-- Live Simply. Speak Kindly. Care Deeply. Love Generously. -- anon

[PV]

3.1 was very primitive, using X3 now and it works very well

[Larry Jaques]

I picked up X5 (and a 3rd party manual) recently and will be trying it again. Unfortunately, neither of my scanners works under Win7 and no new drivers are available for them.

-- Live Simply. Speak Kindly. Care Deeply. Love Generously. -- anon