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On Feb 15, 7:55 am, snipped-for-privacy@milmac.com (Doug Miller) wrote:

That's the spin Rove gave it. You bought into it. He's good, eh? I actually admire Rove, in a sick way. He's one of the brightest in the administration. Gore said something that was open to misinterpretation, something that is quite clear when you read his statement. But that would mean you'd have to have an open mind, and put biases aside. But you can't do that anymore, Doug.... Rove got to you first. Now your mind is set, which also means that we should stop this part of the thread. If you think Rove has nothing to do with media spin, on a grand scale, think Swift-boats.
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No, that's not anybody's spin, that's an actual *fact*: the internet *did* exist long before Gore was elected to Congress.
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On Feb 15, 10:23 am, snipped-for-privacy@milmac.com (Doug Miller) wrote:

If there is a point to this statement of yours, would you mind getting to it?
So who said that there wasn't an internet prior to Gore's statement?
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That statement *is* the point.

Nobody said that. (Nice red herring, though.) The point is that Gore claimed to have, while a member of Congress, taken "the initiative in creating" something that already existed *before* he was in Congress.
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On Feb 15, 12:59 pm, snipped-for-privacy@milmac.com (Doug Miller) wrote:
>(Nice red herring, though.)
Likely mercury poisoning. HgO is often red.
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RE: Subject
This discussion has divided into two (2) camps.
1) Those whose head is stuck where the moon doesn't shine.
2) Those whose head is not stuck where the moon doesn't shine.
The reader is left to make the appropriate choice as it applies to them.
Lew
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That's good, Lew! It's obvious that _every_ reader of ths ng is in category 2!
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snipped-for-privacy@milmac.com (Doug Miller) writes:

The Internet as a research network existed. Only colleges and research organizations could afford to be directly connected. Essentially you had to have a DARPA contract to get connected.
It wasn't until funding for the Information Superhighway did the Internet explode into commercial and home use.
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Gore didn't claim that he took the initiative in expanding the internet, or exploding it into commercial and home use -- he claimed he "took the initiative in creating [it]". And that is simply not true. It already existed, as you acknowledge above.
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snipped-for-privacy@milmac.com (Doug Miller) writes:

It existed as a research tool for those funded by the government. It was NOT available for commercial use at the time.
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Correct. So how did Al Gore have anything to do with the creation of something that already existed?

I didn't say that it was.
And Gore didn't claim that he took the initiative in *expanding* it to commercial use -- a claim which would have been at least partially true, and at worst an exaggeration. He made the patently false claim that he took the initiative in *creating* it -- in creating something that you _agreed_ with me was already in existence before he came along.
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in 1345945 20070216 120516 Bruce Barnett

True - that only happened in the early 90s. Who was responsible for the change?
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On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 12:05:16 +0000 (UTC), Bruce Barnett

At _what_ time? What specific legislation are you talking about?
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Robatoy wrote:

Global warming exissts, and is caused by all the hot air Al Gore spews out.
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On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 12:55:12 GMT, snipped-for-privacy@milmac.com (Doug Miller) wrote:

You are smarter than that, Douglas:
http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp
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I'm smart enough to know that the internet existed before Gore was elected to Congress. You may be unaware of that fact -- but that doesn't make it any less a fact.
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On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 02:17:53 GMT, snipped-for-privacy@milmac.com (Doug Miller) wrote:

1958 - ARPA formed in response to Sputnik launch. (note: it was not called darpa at this point.)
1967 - ARPANET design discussions held.
1969 - ARPANET commisioned by DoD for research into networking.
1970 - First publication of Host-Host protocol by ARPANET.
1973 - First international connection to ARPANET (University College Of London).
1976 - Ethernet developed.
1976 - Al Gore the younger elected to Congress.
1978 - TCP and IP split.
1979 - USENET was born. (lucky us.)
1984 - ARPANET divided into MILNET and ARPANET.
1986 - IETF (Internet Engineering Task Force) created.
Al did not say that he helped to create ARPANET.
BTW - Rick never said, "Play it again. Sam."
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Three years before AlGore's election...
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On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 10:53:30 GMT, snipped-for-privacy@milmac.com (Doug Miller) wrote:

That was a crappy response and you know it.
At least give the guy credit for inventing the algorithm. I mean, how do you think it got its name?
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No, Tom, just pointing out the facts -- the internet existed before AlGore was elected to Congress, and he was lying when he said he "took the initiative in creating it". Just like he was lying when he claimed to have spent his youth working on the family farm. Just like he was lying when he claimed that his mother sang him to sleep using "Look for the Union Label" as a lullaby -- a song that wasn't written until he was in his twenties.
And just like he's lying now about globabl warming.
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