I don't get it, why is metric better?

[dpb]

On 08/09/2016 9:52 AM, John McCoy wrote: ...

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There's lots of uses for waste heat by space heating if one were to look for the opportunities...one of the reactors of my former employer was built to supply process steam to a chemical plant in addition to the electrical turbine; it took regenerator cycle input after first stage went through primary turbine.

The reactor was also sited in a location that the waste heat into the cooling ponds from the cooing towers is used in domestic catfish production...and you'll fine fisherman lining the banks downstream of most power plants outflows for similar reasons... :)

Most of the time to date there's been no effort to make such efforts but the opportunities are there to be taken advantage of...

[krw]

Nevermind...

[krw]

Nope, no intelligence needed. A CNC machine is a robot.

[krw]

So drink it out of a glass (says one drinking Diet Coke out of a 44oz. Styrofoam cup ;-).

[krw]

No, all you have to do is move the power plant to the coal fields. They're all over.

...and coal, without the political bullshit, is still cheaper.

[krw]

We know how to move electricity, too.

[dpb]

On 08/09/2016 5:00 PM, John McCoy wrote: ...

It's rare that _any_ new facility is sited in a totally new location; that's a impossibility or at least a major battle any more for _any_ kind of facility. While it's been a while I still don't want to "talk out of school" on any particular utility's plans I was privy to, there were a half-dozen _large_ plants that have been put on hold not because of economics for the plant but by the added regulatory and permitting burdens. All of these are on existing sites or previously-designated sites, not some new location just picked out--the utilities have pretty well outlined the suitable sites given adequate cooling water, access, transmission lines, etc,. etc., etc., years and years ago in their long-range planning exercises.

We lost that 10 yr ago or so...

Anyway, I've about run out; how did we get onto this??? :)

As you can tell, it's _extremely_ frustrating to me after 30+ yr helping the utilities keep the lights on at lowest cost by improving technology thru R&D, to see the sad state to which we've been reduced by bureaucrats and others who have little comprehension of what they're actually doing--and will be the first to cry "foul!" when they finally do bring the days of rolling blackouts, etc., ... "Huh! Never _thunka_ that!!!"

[krw]

3) They weren't designed for 100% duty cycle.

[dpb]

On 08/09/2016 8:11 PM, [e-mail] wrote: ...

Simply knowing how doesn't build a transmission line...siting them now is a major obstacle, too, besides simply the expense.

[krw]

Laying new track isn't a picnic, either. Nor a pipeline. Politics is going to kill us all.

[Markem]

If money were no object we would have super conductor lines, and nitrogen refrigeration plants all over. There have been some trail plants though.

[dpb]

DC gets you quite a long way in the direction at _MUCH_ less cost and certainly not the imminent disaster of losing cooling.

Now, when you get room-temp SC, _then_ you'll begin to have something. Otherwise, I think it'll like fusion, always "only 50 year away"...

[Just Wondering]

The recipe for Coca-Cola is critical. When a batch comes out not quite right, they repackage and and sell it as Pepsi. :)

[J. Clarke]

Sorry, laddie, but the 35mm standard originated in the US with George Eastman, William Dickson, and Thomas Edison. Only it wasn't "35mm" then, it was 1-3/8 inch.

Fuji, Agfa, and others are the ones who "had to do it"--Kodak started selling 35mm film in 1892.

The best reason not to use metric is that not using metric annoys people like you.

[J. Clarke]

98 percent of cell phones use some variant of the ARM, and ARM uses IEEE-754 floating point.

[John McCoy]

[e-mail] wrote in news: [e-mail]:

Well, I see that after a facetious comment on the railroad item you happily ignored all the other costs of running a coal plant, so we'll just have to leave it at "you're wrong".

John

[dpb]

Well, EPA data May '16 on equivalent But basis was

Powder River Basin Coal $0.40/mmmBtu Central Appalach Coal $1.74/mmmBtu Natural Gas Henry Hub $1.94/mmmBtu

so it's not necessarily a foregone conclusion, even yet, no, even with the currently seriously depressed NG prices that are sure to not last.

[Jack]

This is what newsgroups are all about. It should be a mandatory part of all newsgroup charters to give users an idea of what to expect.

Good catch.

[Jack]

I doubt it. This particular topic has migrated into a bunch of topics, which is typical. I recall one thread on how to drill holes in a workbench for bench dogs that went on forever, and I think actually stayed pretty much on topic. I didn't participate in the thread but was amazed that a woodworking group could find so much to say about such a simple task.

Sort of fits right in with Just wonderings link:

[Jack]

I think there are like 3 countries that use imperial, and the first two don't count. The USA was the most successful country ever, but it *was* because of the free market system controlled by individuals rather that socialist system controlled by brain dead central government. We have been doing everything possible to sink down to everyone else's level. We are there, or close to it. Hilarity should finish the job.