Don't forget that 12 jurors, unanomously awarded the woman the 2-3 million dollar damages and sufferance award. People ridicule the amazing outcome but know very little of the situation.
McDonald's old cups were made from a rigid styrofoamlike materia. The lid made the barrel shaped cup, very firm and solid until you pulled hard to tug the tight lid off. At this point the cup would collapse and your firm grip would extrude the contents into the air, like a squeezed Heinz Ketchup packette. I had one explode on me inside their restaurant and stain the ceiling, years ago. I would think this construction may have been partially responsible for the award.
BTW: I understand a few years later a follow up court rolled back the award to a few hundred thousand$$.
Communications barrier as I said earlier, also, I do not own my own table saw although I have used them before, I am not an expert and would not feel qualified to teach someone else on proper technique.
Oh, sorry, thought you were talking about the table saw. They were finished with the limbs by then, actually about by the time I noticed what was happening. Sawzall is obviously the wrong tool for ripping strips like mentioned above. Table saw is, but .... as I said I am not qualified for that lesson.
On Fri, 28 May 2010 15:37:54 -0500, -MIKE- wrote the following:
Hey, if it had a bark detector, he'd have to stop feeding stray neighborhood dogs through it.
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Have you ever read the facts regarding the Liebeck v McDonald's case?
I'm not saying she wasn't an idiot - in fact she was found partially at fault - but if you Google the incident, you''ll find that Micky D's had settled over 700 coffee-burn related incidents prior to the Liebeck case and admitted being aware that their coffee was kept at a temperature that could cause (and had caused) 3rd degree burns in a matter of seconds.
You'll also find that Liebeck tried to settle the case for $20K to cover her medical bills but Micky D's refused - offering her $800 - even though they had previously settled coffee burn cases for close to $500K. That's the only reason she brought the suit: They had previously settled cases for huge sums yet refused coverage for her $20K in medical bills.
The widely quoted punitive damage award of $2.7MM (2-day's coffee revenue ) was eventually reduced to less than $500K, even though the judge (not the jury) called McDonald=92s conduct reckless, callous, and willful.
As I stated earlier, you have to be a idiot to open a hot cup of coffee while holding the cup between your legs, but you gotta love Mickey's reason for not turning down the temperature: 700 incidents in
10 years is equivalent to about 1 in 24 million cups, which is "basically trivially different from zero." In other words, according to McDonalds, those 700 people basically didn't exist.
On Fri, 28 May 2010 20:52:59 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote the following:
And coffee kept at the mfgr's specified temp, 20 degrees lower, only gives second degree burns in a matter of seconds. IOW, hot coffee will hurt you. BE CAREFUL with it.
I take the hard line with this one. Anyone dumb enough to sit still while their lap's on fire (instead of dancing around, ripping clothes off and blowing on it, which immediately cools it) doesn't deserve their bills to be paid.
Not according to 19.8 million drive-thru coffee lovers.
More people complained about cold coffee than they did about burns. MD kept it hot because 90% of the drive-thru orders were people driving to work and they wanted hot coffee when they got there. This was back before microwaves at work were standard, but it still holds true.
BUT, Why should 700 Darwin Attemptees be counted, anyway?
Q: Have you ever burned your tongue on hot coffee from any place other than MD's? Do you consider your lap to contain less sensitive organs?
OK, rant #2 hit my email earlier today:
--snip-- In God We Trust!!!
DIVORCE AGREEMENT
THIS IS SO INCREDIBLY WELL PUT AND I CAN HARDLY BELIEVE IT'S BY A YOUNG PERSON, A STUDENT!!! WHATEVER HE RUNS FOR, I'LL VOTE FOR HIM.
Dear American liberals, leftists, social progressives, socialists, Marxists and Obama supporters, et al:
We have stuck together since the late 1950's for the sake of the kids, but the whole of this latest election process has made me realize that I want a divorce.... I know we tolerated each other for many years for the sake of future generations, but sadly, this relationship has clearly run its course.
Our two ideological sides of America cannot and will not ever agree on what is right for us all, so let's just end it on friendly terms. We can smile and chalk it up to irreconcilable differences and go our own way.
Here is a model separation agreement:
Our two groups can equitably divide up the country by landmass each taking a similar portion. That will be the difficult part, but I am sure our two sides can come to a friendly agreement. After that, it should be relatively easy! Our respective representatives can effortlessly divide other assets since both sides have such distinct and disparate tastes.
We don't like redistributive taxes so you can keep them. You are welcome to the liberal judges and the ACLU. Since you hate guns and war, we'll take our firearms, the cops, the NRA and the military. We'll take the nasty, smelly oil industry and you can go with wind, solar and biodiesel. You can keep Oprah, Michael Moore and Rosie O'Donnell (You are, however, responsible for finding a bio-diesel vehicle big enough to move all three of them).
We'll keep capitalism, greedy corporations, pharmaceutical companies, Wal-Mart and Wall Street. You can have your beloved lifelong welfare dwellers, food stamps, homeless, homeboys, hippies, druggies and illegal aliens. We'll keep the hot Alaskan hockey moms, greedy CEO's and rednecks. We'll keep the Bibles and give you NBC and Hollywood .
You can make nice with Iran and Palestine and we'll retain the right to invade and hammer places that threaten us. You can have the peaceniks and war protesters. When our allies or our way of life are under assault, we'll help provide them security.
We'll keep our Judeo-Christian values.. You are welcome to Islam, Scientology, Humanism, political correctness and Shirley McClain. You can also have the U.N.. but we will no longer be paying the bill.
We'll keep the SUV's, pickup trucks and oversized luxury cars. You can take every Subaru station wagon you can find.
You can give everyone healthcare if you can find any practicing doctors. We'll continue to believe healthcare is a luxury and not a right. We'll keep The Battle Hymn of the Republic and the National Anthem. I'm sure you'll be happy to substitute Imagine, I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing, Kum Ba Ya or We Are the World.
We'll practice trickle down economics and you can continue to give trickle up poverty your best shot. Since it often so offends you, we'll keep our history, our name and our flag.
Would you agree to this? If so, please pass it along to other like minded liberal and conservative patriots and if you do not agree, just hit delete. In the spirit of friendly parting, I'll bet you Answer which one of us will need whose help in 15 years.
Sincerely, John J. Wall Law Student and an American
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On Sat, 29 May 2010 00:17:02 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski" wrote the following:
Say, can I sell you a square-cutter-headed jointer?
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On Sat, 29 May 2010 14:38:59 -0500, snipped-for-privacy@host122.r-bonomi.com (Robert Bonomi) wrote the following:
Ackshully, Bob, they're real. But use a push stick, cuz if they get ahold of the board and your hand is on it, it can eat 3/4 of your arm before you've had a chance to realize it. They were real gapers.
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