There are occasional injuries. I would worry about the thing catching my
clothes and pulling me in.
I don't think so.
It's probably OK. Your mask doesn't have to deflect a bullet. It's going to
both deflect and spread an impact out over a larger area, reducing its effect.
It also keeps the crap from flying into your eyes all the time.
That would be the inside of your lungs otherwise. I wear eye and lung
protection when there's stuff flying around to get me. If it's noisy I wear
hearing protection as well. If I had known way back I was going to live so
long, I'd have taken better care of myself back in the days when I thought I was
"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" <mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com> wrote in message
Pretty rare, injuries at a lathe. As far as life-threatening injuries, it's
safer than walking across the street, certainly. Potential is there for
the careless to ding themselves, but it's fairly easy to move the ON/OFF
switch to where you don't have to lean into the disintegration zone to
activate, reasonable to cut standing outside the zone if you push the tool
handle. Makes you an unlikely impact point.
Eyes are very vulnerable and deserve protection. Face shields are often
more trouble in distortion, distraction and discomfort than they're worth,
especially when the above procedures are followed.
Cutting doesn't make dust, though sanding certainly does, so makes sense not
to overload the body's natural defenses and wear something to cut down on
access. Makes better sense to collect close to the point of generation.
When that's done well, it's tough to work up a booger even if you don't wear
True -- but they are not the only parts of your face that should be protected.
Teeth, for example...
It does not appear that you have much, if any, experience in wearing face
shields. Mine gives *no* problems with distortion or distraction -- and
comfort is one of the reasons I prefer it to goggles. Vision is so clear, and
the shield so lightweight and comfortable, that I often forget it's there,
even to the point of banging my knuckles on it when I reach up to scratch my
nose. In addition to being more comfortable than goggles, it also takes less
time to don or doff -- which means I'm *much* more likely to use it, as
there's really no excuse at all for not wearing it. The one downside I've
experienced with a face shield is the importance of remembering to flip it up
when I feel a sneeze coming on. :-b
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 12:49:04 GMT, firstname.lastname@example.org (Doug Miller)
I've got one that is clear, lightweight and comfortable, but it builds
up so much static electricity that is sucks every bit of dust it can
hold migrates to it immediately, and make it hard to see. So, I hedge
my bets a little, and use it when I have any suspicions that what I'm
doing might come loose or break apart. I always wear it for doing
anything with metal, especially after I looked at the stick I used to
true the first disk I tried spinning- getting hit with that would be
about as nice as trying to catch a circular saw blade tossed like a
frisbee with your teeth. For things like roughing between centers, I
don't get too worked up about it.
Of course, any helpful tips on eliminating that static charge would
probably convince me to use the sucker at all times.
There are all kinds of anti-static sprays you can buy, or you can just
use an anti-static dryer sheet, although it probably won't last nearly
as long as some of the products specifically intended for eliminating
I don't live in fear of being killed using a lathe. OTOH, I've lived through
two plane crashes and have a full understanding of the concept of lightning not
always striking the other guy. That being said, there's no point in being
stupid. You do what you can do but there is a point of diminishing return. I
look for the most bang for the buck in concepts of safety. If I don't consider
the return high enough, I'm not likely to bother.
I have a 1 micron dust collector piped into my big tools and also have an air
cleaner mounted on the ceiling of my garage, uh, I mean workshop. On occasion I
end up out in the driveway with something that produces clouds of dust or chips.
If I do, I wear a respirator. I never need to wear one when I'm cutting boards
at the jointer, band or table saw. The dust collector handles them well enough
to suit me.
Irregardless of what I'm doing, if a cloud of dust exists, I wear the
respirator. But that's the only time I wear it.
Completely false. I remember an especially gruesome incident described
either here, or on rcw, a number of years ago in which a long-haired turner
failed to tie his hair back, and managed to get a pretty hefty lock of it
wrapped around the spinning workpiece. I'll leave the results to your
imagination, which likely isn't going to be any worse than the reality.
Never to me, but it has happened. Why not post in rcw (rec.crafts.woodturning)
and see what folks there have to say. It seems to me that this is a problem
mostly with bowl turning, where the workpiece is of a fairly large diameter
and often being turned with the axis of the grain perpendicular to the lathe
bed. If all you do is spindle turnings (e.g. pens, candlesticks, baseball
bats, chair rungs, table legs, etc.) this is a fairly low risk.
Good enough -- and a lot better than simply goggles. I've said it before, and
I'll say it again: there are other things on your face besides your eyes that
are worth protecting. Teeth, for instance.
Then it would seem that you have more sense than the others. Without the mask,
the stuff that's making it dirty would be making your lungs dirty instead.
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
Wood moves. Sharp edges don't. So a lathe's safer than other tools.
* You can still get sleeves/clothing caught in the rotating chuck.
* Your fingers can get mashed by a chuck.
* That wood can break loose and fly at your body!
I don't know if anyone was seriously injured on a Jet Mini.
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I've been turning a lot over the last three years and have racked up a few
injuries--none serious but enuf to make me take protecting myself seriously.
I wear a face shield. It gets dirty, picks up sap when I turn green wood,
fogs in the winter, and when I sneeze you don't wanna know. But I turn a
lot of wood right off the tree, and it does fling small split pieces off, as
well as bark. Even at 450 rpm, they move. Several have caught me in the
face (mask) making me glad I wore it.
I've had about 5 bowls come unglued from the face plate. They don't fly,
they just sort of wander off of the lathe, mostly at the back.
I turned a plate from an old butcher block top. Got it all done, and spun
it at 1200 rpm to melt the wax. There was one crack sound, and I stopped
all to see what happened, didn't see anything. When I turned it back on,
there was another, and the thing flew apart in three pieces. Two of the old
glue joints let go. I caught one on the side of my arm, one in my gut, and
had bruises for a week. I think my face shield would have resisted the
I hit my fingers a lot with corners before I get the wood rough rounded. You
can't see them. And really knocked my knuckles on "natural edges" spinning
Finally, I've been turning some larger bowls--start with a chunk of trunk
about 13" in diameter and maybe 15" deep. Have to balance it carefully
before, but even thin it is off balance. I lag screw it to the face plate,
make several checks of clearance and balance before I hit the switch, but
when that wood (weighs in at about 30-35#) starts spinning and shaking its
pretty impressive. I stand next to the off switch, out of the line of fire.
So, take care, you can get hurt, but sensible precautions and knowing which
part of the air belongs to the turning and which part your hands can go into
Have a grand time turning--join a turning club and find some of the
resources on the internet. They are great. http://www.woodturner.org /
I agree, the guy is a dickhead! I have been using metal and wood lathes
since I was 15, (now 55) and I can remember one poor chap at work getting a
piece of wood that broke off stuck in his forehead! very nasty.. You should
all ways work with great respect for machinery, accidents can and will
happen if you don't.
I will give my standard rant concerning face sheilds.
When I was setting up a small metal shop, I asked a friend of mine who
worked in steel mills where I should go to buy some basic safety equipment.
He referred to to an industrial safety suppplier. Most cities of any size
There is an amazing assortment of safety equipment at them and most of is is
much better quality than what you get at the borg. I ended up getting a red
hard hat with a face shield attachment. The face shield was a sheet of
flexible polycarbonate with holes in the edge that matched the frame on the
helmet. It quickly changed out from the old one to the new one.
Polycarbonate, although tough, does have a tendancy to get scratched up. So
replacement shieds are a must. One of the reasons why I bought this setup
was because my steel mill friend had some tall tales of how they saved
somebody's face/eyes. i have had a number of solid objects impact the face
shield when grinding down metal parts.
One time it hit hard enough to knock me over onto my ass from a forward
bending position. I have also taken hits on the hard hat as well. If I am
going to do anything in the shop, metal or woodwork, that has a potential to
do me bodily harm, I armor up. Hard hat, face shield, ear protection, safety
glasses and dust mask are a minimum. I often wear a leather apron as well
with a break away strings on it in case it gets caught in anything.
Call me a safety freak. But I grew up around all kinds of industrial
accident victims. I vowed from an early age that nothing like this was going
to happen to me. And I have been a bonafide safety freak ever since.
I don't know what is done in shops or at homes alone, but I have been hit
bit a flying cutting tool that sliced through my arm, and flew across the
room. I was cutting with the ~16" gouge facing away from me at the time.
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