A friend has asked me to put crown moulding on his kitchen cabinets but when I went to look at the job I found full overlay doors on frameless cabinets, meaning that there is no available frame to attach the moulding to and the doors go right up to the top of the cabinet. How do I get around this problem. All tips and help appreciated. Mike
If there is room above the cabinets, i.e. the cabinets do not go all the way to the ceiling, you need to attach 'blocking' to the top of the cabinet. To which you affix the moulding to...
Simple pine 1"x2" worked fine for me. In my case the blocking had to be glued and nailed to the cabinet top prior to hanging the cabinets...
How much space do you have between the ceiling and cabinet top?
Rick
These sound like euro cabinets. If so, the doors can be adjusted down by about 1/16" for clearance at the top. Nail a roughly 3/4" x 3/4" strip to the cabinet tops where you want the crown. Nail the crown to that strip.
Thanks guy's. There's a good 18" from cabinet top to ceiling. The doors are, as well as I can remember full overlay on top and bottom too. No part of the frame is accessible when the door is closed. Mike
I did a similar project a while back. In my case I didn't have space to get above the cabinet to attach the nailing block, so I screwed them in place from inside the cabinet. The good news is that with 18" of headspace above, you don't have to worry about the ceiling being flat and level. My was way crooked. What a pain! Yours will be easy.
Bernie
talk him out of it.
else: if the cabinets (and the doors) go up to the cieling, you'll be cuttinh off the top of the doors.
if there is space above the cabinets build a structure to attach the crown to.
Mike , cut 2x4 blocking and fasten 2'-0" centers or so. If you are also installing a dust top on the crown allow for this on the blocking. I use 1/4" luan for this. Keep dust top at least 1/8" below the top of crown. I usually install the dust top last, though you could install it before the crown, 5/8" brad nail into top of blocking is all you need.I install blocking with drywall laminating screw ( predrill hole ) and panel adhesive ( liquid nails ). One screw is enough to hold blocking, adhesive will do the rest. I usually install crown same day as blocking, adhesive is not cured but the screw holds the blocking for installation of crown. mike
this may be too late to do any good, and someone else mentioned it in some form, but...
you can use what is commonly called 'pre-crown' material; the cabinet shop i used to work for would make strips of plywood 1 1/2 to 2 1/2 inches wide, put edgebanding on one edge, and finish that edge and the bottom...
the 'pre-crown' would be attached so that it overhung the face of the cabinets (either screwed in from above into the top of the cab, if clearance permits, or screwed in from below, inside the cab)overhanging about 1/4 to 3/4" past the face of the cabs, depending on this that or the other...
then the crown would be attached to the 'pre-crown', usually *not* flush, but held up 1/4" or so...
depending on the height/weight of the crown, it might have some supports/gussets to help structurally; if the crown was particularly tall (or had a number of 'layers'), we would put 'crown lids' over the whole shebang so that
-assuming enough ceiling space- the typical kitchen display clutter/crap that is placed up there wouldn't be hidden when it dropped behind a tall crown...
charley
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