Hearing protection with biscuit jointer

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I've been doing some work with my PC bisuit jointer. Do ya'll use hearing protection when using a biscuit jointer? It seems that on some cuts, it isn't much worse than a drill. On some cuts, it is much louder, and I definitely was using hearing protection for those cuts.
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Always.
Brian.

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As a rule, no ... my 557 is pretty quite, at least in most of the woods I've used it in thus far ... mainly oak and walnut. It is also for a very brief duration for the most part, with no sustained level like there is with a router, which is what will eventually get you.
If I had to guess, I say around 85 dB spl at arm' length, which is about where I usually mix at in the studio. When I get a chance, I'll bring a spl meter to the shop and check it out.
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Okay get ready to flame me I can handle it, To me it is a danger to put on those things that block your hearing I've been at it for 48 years and there is no problem with my hearing. The danger is not hearing the sound of the machine and any cutting tool working the wood The slightest thing wrong with any motor or any piece of wood being cut i can hear across the shop, Whether I'm working it or someone else is working it. I know this is not for everyone but to me it would be blocking one of my major senses when working. George

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George M. Kazaka wrote:

You asked for it! :)
That's nuts. Absolutely nuts. They don't block anything, they muffle it. Reduce the damaging frequencies.
I can still hear a pin drop in my shop with my ears on, but it really cuts down on the *amount* of noise I get from running my crappy universal motors. Especially the TS and router, which put out about a billion decibels each.
I don't know if mine are different from the average woodworker's hearing protectors or not though. They're gun mufflers. I bought them when I got my .45... Took it to the range (30 minutes away) without them once, and I only fired off one shot before packing up and coming home. People who used to shoot without hearing protection were nuts. Especially people who used to shoot .357 and .44 Magnums without hearing protection. (Or worse, artillery. Sorry to all the vets who were doing that before hearing protection was invented. Cops too, for that matter.)
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
That's probably about all they can hear now.
Woodworking isn't as noisy as shooting, but it's noisy. Running my TS without my ears is about as bad as shooting a .38 revolver with no ears. Tolerable, but unpleasant.

If I ever go into your shop, I'm putting on my ears. I don't care what you do. I don't care if you wear your seatbelt, or ride a motorcycle without a helmet, or smoke, or drink a gallon of booze a day, or rewire outlets without cutting off the breaker. Your safety is your problem, and I'm happy that you're happy not to wear hearing protection. I still think you're off your rocker though! :)
And anyway, to answer the OP's question... I don't have a biscuit joiner, but if I did, I'd probably wear my ears while using it.
I don't put them on just to use my drill press, electric drill, or metal-cutting bandsaw, and that's about it. I wear them for using my jigsaw, circular saw, table saw, router, belt sander, shop vac, and I'll probably use them with the wood-cutting bandsaw I just got.
My hearing is OK too. Some loss in the right ear, but I can still get a perfect score on a hearing test.
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Mike don't get so excited about it . I am not telling you that you should go without ear protection, I made a statement on what i do, about the only machine that to me makes a bad loud noise is the router I cannot in any degree see how you compare woodworking noise's with gunshots.
Most noises we hear throughout the day are probably more damaging than the sounds in the shop, mine or yours. or anyone's, maybe they are worse in the confines of a home garage than in my open shop, that still is only 2200 Sq Feet but a lot more open than your confines.
Sometimes when on the phone I have shut the door to my office while the router is running to muffle the high pitches coming from the router, I can hear the machine but cannot hear if a piece of wood starts to splinter, I imagine that is the close to similar to what you are hearing with your mufflers on,
I don't claim to be an expert about it nor do I want to be Its good to be safe, and everyone has their own level of safety, Working in this business uses a lot of our senses not only the feel in our hands but the sounds around us as in the sight of what we are doing. To me shutting out the sounds is not much different than blindfolding me or tying my hand behind my back. I do know that there are some that understand what I am saying and then there are others as you that have no concept at all about what I am saying. Thats okay, I'm not trying to change you, For me its unsafe to operate a machine with a blindfold on and also not to be able to hear. Its not nuts and buy the way no you cannot hear a pin drop in most case's even when no machine is running and you have no earmuffs on <G>

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You probably can't.
But _I_can_.
That's because I protect my hearing, and you don't.
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Doug Miller wrote:
Oh, I missed that bit.

Me too. I guess it depends on what the pin drops onto though. It'd have to be really quiet for me to hear it landing in a big wad of poly fill, say.
I can hear *spiders* crawling up the wall. (They hafta be big spiders, granted. One reason I hate wolf spider so much is because of how creepy they sound. Especially when they crawl over plastic. Shudder.)
(And no, I'm not hearing invisible spiders. :)
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George M. Kazaka wrote:

I'm not excited about it at all. I thought I was pretty clear on that point. I think you're nuts, but they ain't my ears, so I don't care what you want to do.
When I ride with crazy people who don't use seatbelts, I always fish the thing out of all the McDonald's bags and put it on. I don't try to tell them to put *theirs* on. Not my problem.
To take a different side, my guard hasn't been anywhere near my saw in years, and I'm usually too lazy to put the splitter back on until I see a board start to crawl up, or a kerf wanting to close. That ought to give you a chance to send a return flame my way. :)

You don't have my table saw. :)
Seriously, the start up noise on that thing is not unlike a gunshot.
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On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 14:17:34 -0500, Silvan

On a side note, it could be YOUR problem.
Unbelted passengers can become projectiles in a crash, hitting the back of your seat or hitting you from the side, depending on the impact.
I knew someone who was killed by an unbelted rear seat adult, driven forward by the impact, crushing the guy I knew.
Barry
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*removethis* snipped-for-privacy@snet.net wrote:

Which is why I have a firm rule: my car doesn't roll until everybody is buckled in. People who object to that can find a ride somewhere else.
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Doug Miller wrote:

Yeah, now, I'm the same way. If it's *my* car, I get to set the rules.
I had a nasty wreck as a kid. I got a seatbelt burn instead of a face full of glass and asphalt. I was a seatbelt wearer then, but I've been a lot more secure in my feeling that I'm doing the right thing ever since.
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On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 20:31:38 -0500, Silvan

I agree with Doug & Silvan. I also had a nasty wreck as a kid (20 years old). Lost my left eye and a couple of teeth when my faced smashed on the steering wheel because the belt did not lock. I also had a nasty diagonal bruise across my chest. I am very glad I got that bruise. This was before seat belts were compulsory, but, as I figured then, if Niki Lauda and Gilles Villeneuve could wear them, so could I, at least on the highway. Since then, I have religiously worn seat belts at all times in the car. It also convinced other members of my family and my friends to wear them. I would be dead rather than a one-eye-talian if I hadn't worn a seat belt that day in May 1977.
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Roger. That's a definite ouch. Sorry to hear that.
Soooo, if you wear a bifocal monocle, do we call ya 3-EYES?

Ditto here. My dad used to race Autocross and Gymkhana so he was used to belts. He made sure I installed them in my first car. Our insurance, USAA, also gave benefits for those wearing belts. It has been a habit since I was 8 or so.

I hear that. I'll bet you had fun while learning Greek mythology. 0-)
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Technically, I already have three eyes: my functioning right eye, my atrophied original left eye and a plastic corneo-scleral prosthesis (AKA glass eye). So a bifocal monocle would make me a 5-EYES!

Hey, I never thought of Cyclops as one-eye-talians before! Ulysses did find Polyphemus in Sicily, IIRC. Cool!
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Luigi Zanasi wrote:

One-eye-talian... You should have warned me first. Got a towel?
(Glad you were wearing the seatbelt. I was wearing them before they became compulsory too, incidentally, though I was just a five year old in '77.)
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passenger in my cousin's VW Beetle, UNbelted, when we had a *very* minor accident. We were second in line at a traffic light; light turned green, guy ahead of us started to move, we started to move, bozo ran the red light, guy ahead of us stopped, we didn't. Not til we hit his bumper, anyway. We hadn't moved fifteen feet, couldn't have been going more than 5 mph tops, I'm sure. Just the same, I whacked my forehead on the windshield, and my nose on the dashboard. No injuries other than a bloody nose and a knot on my noggin, but it was enough to convince me. Never again have I ridden in a car without a seat belt.
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Doug Miller writes:

Long ago, though not all that far away, I had a similar experience. A friend spun his daddy's Puick after hitting a puddle (nothing like learning about hydroplaning the hard way), running us off the road and to a quick stop in mud. No real damage to vehicle or people, but I was concussed a bit and had a nose that changed the seat cover colors.
Trouble is, that was about '55 or '56, and it wasn't until '57 that Ford attempted (and failed) to introduce seat belts as an extra cost option. I hate the things, now, but I use them religiously.
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On 15 Dec 2003 14:33:32 GMT, snipped-for-privacy@aol.comnotforme (Charlie Self) wrote:
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|Trouble is, that was about '55 or '56, and it wasn't until '57 that Ford |attempted (and failed) to introduce seat belts as an extra cost option. I hate |the things, now, but I use them religiously.
I installed seat belts in my '36 Ford in 1958. In AZ all front seat passengers are required to be belted. If they aren't the *driver* can be cited.
In accident cases were kids aren't in child seats the parents are routinely cited for child abuse. Unless they're illegal aliens of course and then they have more "rights" than us citizens.
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B a r r y B u r k e J r . wrote:

Whee. Thanks for that. Well, I try to avoid being in that situation in the first place, but I'm not about to tell my boss to put his seatbelt on. ;)
I just quietly dig it out of all the crap and fasten it, and he rolls his eyes at me.
Doesn't happen very often.
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