Hawaii, boxes and books

Just returned from Oahu, Hawaii. Stayed with my daughter that lives there to save mega $$ in hotel costs. I was in a high end gift shop in Waikiki. They have some stunningly beautiful boxes made of a variety of woods, including monkey pod, lined with cedar. They were about 30 inches by 24 inches by 20 inches. One was $4100, the other two which had curved tops were $4600. Ouch.
Anyway, I can make these things. And bigger.
So I was wondering what box making books the gropu recommedns. Two I found are: Box-Making Basics by David M. Freedman and Tauton's Illustrated Guide to Box Making by Doug Stowe
Any recommendations?
BTW, I can probably design and build a box without a book but I've found sometimes a $20 book can prevent a $200 mistake.
Cheers.
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On 13 Jan 2007 17:27:56 -0800, "Never Enough Money"

It appears that Mr. Stowe has published a few books on that very subject accornding to amazon.com
Waikiki - nice place.
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George Max wrote:

Three that I know of - their on my bookshelf. Actually, one's on the bedside table. If you can't come up with a box idea after going through any one of his books . . .
charlie b
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George Max wrote:

I have the Illustrated Guide and like it. Mr. Stowe hangs out here from time to time...
-Jim
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On 13 Jan 2007 17:27:56 -0800, "Never Enough Money"

FWIW, Doug posts here occasionally.
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Never Enough Money wrote:

No recommendations on boxes, however I will be in Oahu / Waikiki next month (never been before) so any suggestions on things to see/do?
Pete C.
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Here's what I did: Day 1: Wander around Waikiki. Did snorkeling off Waikiki beach. I thought it was great but learned later it's considered bad. There were colorful fish, just not many.
Day 2: Went to a military beach (Bellows) to body surf and boogie board. Stopped at Pali lookout. Drive was nice. You need an enlisted person with you to get in.
Day 3: Polynesian Cultural Center & North beech. Huge waves at North Beach. Polynesian Cultural center is a tourist trap and moneymaker for the Mormans.
Day 4: Climbed Diamond Head in the morning, then to Hunama Bay for snorkeing. This was great! Also went to the "blow hole." Scenery was tops.
Day 5: Perl Harbor. Put priority on USS Missouri.
Day 6: Catamaran trip with snorkeling. Saw doplhins, flying fish, about 6 whales, sea turtles and lots of fish while snorkeling.
Each day ate at a good resturant. Duke's in Waikiki is a rip off.

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Never Enough Money wrote:

I've already got a flight over to the big island for a day and a 2 hr heli tour there booked. Not sure what else to do over there that day, presumably wander and find some dinner before the flight back.
Might take a day to do a scuba tour, got a sub tour at Oahu booked as well. I figure I need to do a luau one evening too. Always interested in good restaurants.
Pete C.
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wrote:

I've read that a luau on Oahu called "Germaine's" is good, but I've no experience with that. The one wifey and I went to is on Maui in Lahaina called "The Feast at Lele". It's a sit down and they bring the food to you. The people that run that one also run "The Old Lahaina Luau" also considered very good. Unlimited mai-tais at The Feast. Wifey had to drive back to the condo. ;)
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George Max wrote:

I've seen ads for that one. Figure I don't need advance res for one so I'll just as at the hotel for recommendations.

I'll keep those in mind in case I take a hop over there.
Thanks,
    Pete C.
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wrote:

Pete, both those shows are extremely popular. I don't know for sure about Lele, but Old Lahaina Luau sells out well in advance. You can book tickets online, so if I were you I would be checking right now for availability. I recommend it highly, BTW. Good food, good show, good drinks.
Bill
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On 14 Jan 2007 15:35:18 -0800, "Never Enough Money"

I particularly like Duke's. Henry Kapono plays there on Sunday afternoon's. "The House Without A Key" restaurant at the Halekulani is nice too. "La Mer" is there as well, but it's very pricey.
Top of Diamond Head is good. When you go to Pearl Harbor, also stop over at the Punchbowl, the National Memorial Cemetary not very far from there.
The Bishop Museum is excellent too.
Wifey wanted to do a dinner cruise, so we took a ride on the Navatek. That was very nice.
On the other side of the island is the Byodo-In Temple. It's a replica of a temple just like it in Japan.
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Duke's is too expensive for the quality. Too noisy. The Mai Tai's were weak. We waited 1 hour when we arrived at 6 PM.
It's a hopping place though. Sunsets there are supposed to be nice.
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On 14 Jan 2007 19:17:19 -0800, "Never Enough Money"

We had dinner there once, it was great, but it was awesomely late for us. 9pm local, 2am body clock. I didn't think that it was particularly expensive. For Hawaii. I didn't go there to eat at McDonalds or Dennys.
The other times were for breakfast. We were there right when they opened. No problem for us, even though we "adjusted" to Hawaii time, getting up "early" was no problem.
That breakfast at Duke's was exactly the same price as our hotel (away from the beach) but had a lot better view. That was the deal maker - look at sailboats, the beach and Diamond Head. If we stayed at the hotel, we could have had a lovely view of the street out front with traffic. That was an easy choice.
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wrote:

I spent a month there @ U of H a few years back and can suggest the following:
- Lanikai Beach (and Kailua), on the other side of the island, _AWAY_ from Waikiki. The beach is beautiful, and nearly deserted, just like travel brochures. Hit this beach early in the trip, and you'll never put up with the Waikiki crowds. - The WWII submarine tour and monuments, over near Pearl Harbor. - All the sights on the windward side. This is a great drive up the coast. Stop at the turn offs and check it out. Chinaman's Hat is cool, too! - The Missouri tour, and the Arizona memorial tour, of course! <G>
I spent some time over on the big island, and got over 13,000 feet up to see the telescopes. That was pretty cool, although it can be expensive to get over there and up.
I really can't remember any restaurants good enough to recommend. <G>
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B A R R Y wrote:

I've already got a flight over to the big island for the day and a 2 hr heli tour booked. Not sure what else to do over there that day, presumably wander and find some dinner before the flight back.
Pete C.
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I lived in Waikiki from 2003 till September 2006... Best MaiTai on the beach is at the military resort (Hale Koa) and it's the cheapest to boot. It is a military resort hotel, but the Barefoot Bar along the beach is open to anybody with a dollar. From the Hilton end of the beach, walk toward Diamond Head to the next hotel (Hale Koa), the Barefoot Bar is right along the beach. Don't stir the MaiTai, the fruit juice at the bottom is great, and the rum on top isn't too bad either. Jack
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Never Enough Money wrote:

It's about _selling_ them, not making them. Different world, and there's a lot of hungry woodworkers out there who can do one but not the other. Why do you think I'm working in an office again? 8-)
Also the quality of your finishing becomes _vital_ in this market. You can flog any old rubbish in the joinery or especially the brasswork, but that shiny finish must be flawless.
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Never Enough Money wrote:

Did you get pics of the boxes?
-Jim
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