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Or at least that's the way it should be, since 3 of the 6 blades I've bought from them have broken on the welds. I've heard they will replace them free, but you pay the shipping.
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who? what? where? how? why?
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You know, *them*. You know how *they* are, right?
Hey, you're not one of *them*, are you? :-)
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www wrote:

Hey, I'm really sorry - haven't checked my newsgroups for awhile and this got posted in the wrong place. It was intended to be a reply to a posting about a sale on Timberwolf blades. I called the manufacturer and was told that blades break on the welds because the ceramic guides are set too tight and they overheat, and that I may have had too much tension on them. I tend not to believe either explanation, though.
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Why? Have you checked for heat after sawing?
Are you following the manufacturer's suggestions on blade tension?
Just curious. Never have lost a weld on mine, and I've been running ceramic guides for six or so and thrust bearings for a couple of years on my saw.
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George wrote:
Why? Have you checked for heat after sawing?
Are you following the manufacturer's suggestions on blade tension?
Just curious. Never have lost a weld on mine, and I've been running ceramic guides for six or so and thrust bearings for a couple of years on my saw.
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Honestly, I didn't check for heat. How much heat would it take? When I think of steel failing because of heat, I think, red hot. How hot would it be? Like an iron? I picked up the broken ends right away, didn't notice anything out of the ordinary. One thing I have noticed about these "premium" blades though is a grind mark at the weld. On the other hand, on the cheaper blades such as Craftsman there is just a heat discoloration there and the blade is smooth. However I've only gotten Craftsman blades for a 14" saw, and the Timberwolf blades for an 18". As far as tension goes, with my Dayton 18" it's strictly by feel. A small adjusting wheel is all you get. On the phone they said the Timberwolf blades were designed to work with minimum tension (just beyond the point where the blade would flutter, as they describe it) They also said it was important to relieve the tension on the blade when not in use. I have to say that much of this sound a little absurd to me, almost as if they're asking you to compensate for the inferiority of their product. I can't imagine them releasing the tension every evening on the 36" bandsaw at the mill shop I go to, and they never have any problems. I'm going to place an order where the shop gets blades, Bull Sharpening in Oak Park, IL. If those fail, I'll look for something that may be wrong with the bandsaw or my installation and
maintenance habits. After all, my saw was purchased for 200.00 and had to be modified for wood cutting. I had to remove a gearbox and direct-drive the 1475 rpm motor for cutting wood (with a reduction pulley of course) But maybe it's still running too fast! Have to look into it.
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I have a Quick Crank on my saw. Takes about three seconds to back off four turns, another three to put it back next use. Tires will last longer that way too.

I wonder if the larger radius is easier on the welds too? Makes sense to me.
I do know that ceramic guides can put a lot of friction on the blade. They work well, but is it easy to make them too tight and potentially cause a problem.
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I must be missing something. Are you responding to another post? What blades are you referring to?
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I must be missing something. Are you responding to another post? What post that did not quote any contextual information are you referring to? Probably a post by a google groups user--they frequently do that.
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Sorry, you must be using a primative newsreader that doesn't put posts in context? Use Google so you can see the context. :-)
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That's an awfully arrogant way of responding to someone who is trying to help someone communicate effectively. A post with no context is nearly useless in _any_ newsreader.
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The problem with electronic communication is that, even with the use of emoticons, a joking retort is often taken as being smart assed. I'm sorry if my response was taken that way.
I am, though, somewhat serious about newsreaders since many (most?) don't display threads that put a response in context. If you view this discussion in Google as a tree you can see the progression of comments and responses.
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1) I saw the emoticon and took no offense, and assumed you took no offense at my ribbing. In fact, I was tempted to reply with a compliment on your quoting, but thought I would let it die. Didn't happen.
2) I think you are wrong about most newsreaders. All that I am aware of display the tree. In Agent, Thunderbird, Netscape, and I think OE, that is a three subwindow view showing thread titles, the tree of subject lines, authors and times for the current thread, and the text of the current message. But that takes screen space, just as it does in gg, so I tend to look at a single window view. Moving through unread messages, I move seamlessly from thread to thread until I come to a reply in which the context is not given, at which point I need to go to the three subwindow view or open up the single window tree view. And I don't bother when the context is clear from the reply, although often it leaves some doubt. No big deal, but far less convenient than just reading the messages with quoted context. BTW, even with DSL, I find the offline reader far faster (and therefore less aggravating) than using a browser that has to download each message as I read it.
3) From your last couple of posts, it appears that gg does have quoting capability, which is news to me. Hopefully this gives you some feeling about why some (most?) of us appreciate your using that feature.
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Actually GG doesn't have quoting capability. I had to do that manually. I'll do that in the future to avoid confusion.
Thanks, Dick
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Olebiker wrote:

Actually, GG DOES have quoting capability. Go up to the "options" entry, click that and check reply. It quotes the entire piece. Select from there.
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Charlie Self wrote:

Well, I'll be.... Thanks, Charlie.
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Olebiker wrote:

Or you can click the "Reply" link a tthe bottom of the article and, instead of typign your reply into the box that opens, click on "Preview" and then "Edit".
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Cool - that's worth knowing.
I wonder if we'll ever find out what edswoods1 was on about.
John
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The most commonly used one, Outlook, does. So has the other two that I have tried.

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I use Agent, it does put messages in thread order. But, I also don't like wading through a gazillion headers that have already been read to find one that is unread, so it only shows unread posts. If the original post was read days ago, not having any context makes messages like that from the OP completely useless. Also, in some cases, an original posting may not make it to one's news server before responses. In those cases also, the contextless posting is useless because the originating posting is not viewable.
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