I've learned a great deal from people on this newsgroup either by asking questions or by lurking. Hopefully, I've been able to pass some help here and there as well. For the time being, I've decided to take a hiatus because I'm sick of all the disgusting posts and people going through such lengths to prevent you from blocking them. It's truly a shame that such a productive newsgroup has to be ruined by such people.
Don
And your leaving helps us how? I find my kill filters work really well. Ya gotto dig a lot of dirt if you want find diamonds.
Don't hand the scriptkiddies a victory, Don.
Just my 2 cents worth.
Rob
It's *very* easy to avoid the troll posts. Do a Google search on this newsgroup for "nfilter" or "newsproxy". Then download my TrollFilters; see my sig for download instructions. Up until this morning, I hadn't seen *any* of the "disgusting posts" for a *long* time, and the filters are already updated to catch the garbage that got through earlier today.
-- Regards, Doug Miller (alphageek-at-milmac-dot-com)
Get a copy of my NEW AND IMPROVED TrollFilter for NewsProxy/Nfilter by sending email to autoresponder at filterinfo-at-milmac-dot-com You must use your REAL email address to get a response.
Gotta agree with Robatoy,
Just added about 10 new filters to my list this morning. Gets rid of 99% of the trash.
My feeling is that the net is full of this stuff anyway, so just not participating won't solve anything. Just gotta work around this stuff.
I think that it's worth the little bit of time & trouble.
Lou
I don't use a newgroup reader myself. What's the point to downloading all this stuff into your computer when Google posts everything on their server. I look at the titles and just pass by the troll posts. If you don't want to do that, just keep tapping that delete button, but down leave the group. There's too much good info here.
Chuck
As a newbie to this newsgroup, I will say that the amount of crap this is posted is a pain, but the useful knowledge balances it out. I use Google also, and it is easy enough to avoid the trolls.
Pat
What disgusting posts? I haven't seen one in months. At least not here...
I'm using Google, too, but I no longer pass by the trolls and other fools. The "show options" bit lets me post an abuse report easily. Too early by far to see if that does any good, I think, but if it doesn't, I can just avoid them, though the language and concepts get old in a rush.
When do you recall that it was not like this?
My delete button still works.
Dave
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Ditto - you know, it only takes a couple of seconds to send the "innards" and body of the messsage to the abuse program of the sender. People who circumvent this with special ISP and program covers still want recognition (duh) and you can use your blocker to take care of them. (They use parts of the same name over and over again so you can have the blocker block anyone with whatever portion of their address they use over and over in the "From" of the message.)
Doug Miller's suggested program is an excellent option and you can ask it to block any email that has more than 1, 2, or 20 newsgroups in the "To" line. That takes care of a lot of trash as well.
To me it is like washing the salt off the car or raking the leaves off the grass.
Josie
I'm suprised that Google allows this. Alot of message boards trash the account of anyone ever doing this.
Additionally, the PERL scripts that generate these pages from the posts can scan for any words that are not allowed. If it finds a bad word (or even something that resembles a bad word), the post gets deleted.
Instead of quitting the board, send your complaints to Google. Hey - they must be a family-friendly company - right?
All the newsreaders that I have used will function that same way. I download just the headers until I see a subject of interest. When I click on a message, then the body of the message is retrieved and displayed, but not before I request it.
Ahem! Speak for yourself but I certainly ain't no middle aged old coot!!
You ever heard of "di-ver-si-ty? Not all WW's are "old coots"! Though most aren't middle school neither...
-snip-
Renata
I love it!
Yeah, that's one I need to keep in mind. Thanks.
[snip]It's not that easy to skip over them when there are thirty-seven _hundred_ of them, like there were last night, with a couple of dozen useful posts interspersed.
Unfortunately, some of these posts have grossly offensive subject lines; every newsreader I'm familiar with downloads the headers of every post, and if you don't have filtering software in place to remove them, it's pretty hard to avoid seeing the subject lines.
-- Regards, Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
Nobody ever left footprints in the sands of time by sitting on his butt. And who wants to leave buttprints in the sands of time?
regarding
obnoxious
Those look to be a Diplflood (Google for "HipCrime") usually the follow-up is set to news.admin.net-absue.email his ultimate target.
Doug Miller wrote: (snip)
I see what you're saying. I forget that most people use a different message view than I do.
That's true too. I'm pretty thick skinned so it doesn't bother me, but I'm sensitive to the fact that that language can be upsetting to folks. Also, it's sad that this trash forces parents to keep their kids off a woodworking newsgroup for cryin' out loud!
The racial slurs particularly bother me. I live in a racially mixed neighborhood, I attend a racially mixed church, I have friends of other races, a good friend of mine is married to a woman of another race... it's my neighbors, my friends, that these morons are insulting. GRRR!
That, and I'm old-fashioned enough (maybe just plain old enough) to remember that men *used* to temper their language when ladies were present. And we do have some ladies reading this group.
-- Regards, Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
Nobody ever left footprints in the sands of time by sitting on his butt. And who wants to leave buttprints in the sands of time?
I'd be most interesting if one day these buttprints reappeared when some prospective wife/employer/customer/client decided to dig out a bit of background information...
Hey, watch it. What's this about "balding"? I'll have you know that I still have all my hair and even a lot of hair(s) that I never used to have. Why, I have hairs growing from many orifices that never had hair before.
Gerry < waxing indignant >
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