Grr-gripper question

[Swingman]

First off, I am not particularly an advocate of ultra high blades, I really don't care to argue any of the points, I was just trying to answer the question as to why some folks feel the way they do, and I haven't forgotten anything (well, that ain't exactly true cuz I am so damn tired of working 8 days a week here lately that I can't remember my own name half the time).

But do go out to the shop and see if you can't feel the difference between a high and low blade, particularly when first starting the cut.

All my life I have noticed the tendency of a board to "ride up" if the blade is low when ripping, and that tendency disappears with the blade set up high.

Hell, maybe I've just been dreaming that my touch with the saw has been good enough to "feel" that..

[John]

Just walked out to the shop and measured the depth of the channle, and there is approx 1in of clearance from the bottom of the green pad and the inside upper edge of the gripper. So, you can have the blade approx 1in above the workpiece and NOT cut the GRRRipper

Gosh, someone who actually owns a GRRRipper is posting on this instead of just trying to guess about this from the pictures on the Gripper website - will wonders never cease

John

[Swingman]

Amazing, ain't it? But you ain't seen nothing yet. Just wait til' the physics majors, or wannabe physic's majors, or those whose great aunts are physic's majors, get going on the various forces acting on the blade and wood during a cut.

It may be time to nuke the thread because it looks like this cow's been milked.

[J. Clarke]

I find it interesting that your measurement comes so close to my "guess".

[Lee Gordon]

I just came inside from measuring mine, as well. And I can confirm that there is indeed one inch of clearance between the bottom of the rubber pads and the "bridge." So Andy is correct that you can't raise the blade to full elevation and run the Grr-ripper over it without cutting into it and/or your hand. However, the McGuffin here is that the Grr-ripper does not ride flat on the table; it sits on top of the workpiece. So if you are ripping a 2" thick piece of stock, you can raise the blade to just a hair under 3" and be OK. I can see if someone doesn't want to work that way but it doesn't bother me.

Lee

[Lee Gordon]

But that tendency can be counteracted when you are able to apply downward pressure on the workpiece in the vicinity of the blade while simultaneously applying lateral force to keep the piece tight to the fence, which is what I like most about the Grr-ripper.

Lee

[Ba r r y]

Is there any acetone on the wood, and is the dust collector's PVC pipe grounded? Those also can be factors.

Barry

[Swingman]

simultaneously

I agree ... but It takes a week to walk to Dallas from here, which can be counteracted by using various other means of transportation. That doesn't change the underlying facts.

[Upscale]

Absurd comparison. Hope you're not planning on entering any debates soon.

[Swingman]

LOL .. If you believe that, then you're most definitely out of your league. The underlying structural relationships in the 'analogy' are rock solid to any one capable of logical thought ... but you do have to be smart enough to recognize the parallels.

[Upscale]

The structural relationship you are claiming between walking to Dallas and the Grr-gripper is simple equivocation and still meets the standard of absurdity. As far as saying I'm not smart enough to see the parallels, that's an ad hominem response and plainly demonstrates your poor debating skills, as I've already intimidated. It doesn't meet the standards of adequacy and fails to be acceptable. Come back when you have something a little more substantial to offer.

[Lee Gordon]

It may be a while. He's walking to Dallas.

Lee

[Duane Bozarth]

Upscale wrote: ...

That wud be intimated methinks, I doubt you'll intimidate Swingman. :)

[Upscale]

Yeah, mind thought one thing, fingers did something else and I didn't notice until I'd posted the message. I'm sure Swingman will attempt to use it to his advantage.

[Swingman]

Ahh, but the shoe fits you too well ... and "ad hominen" was tit for tat in case you didn't even notice your ad hominem "debate" response.

Well, let's see if we can't get your elevator a little closer to the top floor:

In both instances there is an underlying problem in the realization of a goal, and various means to "counteract" the problem:

Goal Problem Possible Solution Rip cut - board rises - raise blade/use hold down device Get to Dallas - long walk - use device with motor/wheels/wings

Shame on you for not being able to figure out something so simple for yourself ... and so much for your qualifications on making judgments on others ability to "debate".

Now go f*ck yourself.

[Upscale]

The childish comparison you used was simple to see. Anyone with even rudimentary language skills can form a relationship between two things, objects or words. That's simple logic. I dismissed the relationship you developed as being irrelevent because the two ideas were too foreign to each other.

Ahh, now we get down to the real sentiment of the discussion. Failing to prove any valid points, you've digressed to profanity. Very appropriate and more than anything else, demonstrates your lack of debating skills. Let's talk again sometime when you've got something more apropos to say.

[Swingman]

Wel, it was becoming apparent that an attempt to dumb it down to your level was necessary ... obvioulsy even that failed.

It is more likely that you "dismissed it" for lack of comprehension ... provable by your missing the STATED point of the analogy, to wit:

... none of the solutions "change the underlying facts."

No thanks ... the suggested action is much more "apropos", and tailored for you personally, due to the twist you've managed to inject, with the uncalled for snideness in your first post in the thread, into what was heretofore a pleasant little discussion.

[Upscale]

Pleasant until someone disagreed with you. What does that say about your apparently fragile ego that you can't handle a little rebuttal?

[toller]

I bought the full package because that is all they had. I use the basic part frequently, but have never used the rest. YMMV.