This sort a repost. A week ago I meant to post it here but accidental
posted to rec.crafts.woodturning. Did not get any replys there. Hope this
doesn't bug people who read both sites.
Does anyone know if there are problems bringing Grizzly tools into Canada.
They are clear they do not ship to Canada but I am unclear as to why. If
its a marketing issue then its not a concern to me. What I am wondering is,
is there a problem with CSA approval, or something else to do with bringing
tools over the border that I am not aware of.
Bottom line is I live a two hour drive to the Bellingham store(so can pick
up) and am not sure if I should consider Griz tools in purchasing decisions.
Probably the main reason I am looking at them is the rise this year in the
Canada dollar. Local tools stores have not dropped their prices to reflect
their reduced costs but buying in the states does reflect the change.
I don't think you'll have any problem bringing Grizzly tools over the
border. I haven't done it but I did do a little research on it because I'm
close to Bellingham as well. I called Canada Customs to find out what the
details of bringing across a power tool (non U.S. made) were and this is
what I was told:
-Duty is 6% of the purchase price based on CDN funds.
-GST and PST are then charged on the CDN value and the duty.
Here is an example:
Grizzly 6" jointer G1182ZXHW 475.00 USD
$475 plus Wash. sales tax (6.5% i think) is 30.88 for a total at the store
of 505.88 USD. At today's exchange rate that is 659.57 CDN. When you get
to the border you pay 6% duty on the CDN value (39.57) for a total of 699.14
CDN so far. You then pay GST and PST on this amount for a grand total of
The little things add up even if the exchange rate is good.
Anyway this total was still less than I would pay for a General jointer up
here but then I got to thinking about repairs. If something goes wrong with
the Grizzly you've got a serious pain-in-the-ass situation. Bringing that
thing back to the U.S. means stopping at Canada Customs on your way there
and blah, blah, blah, it just wasn't worth it to me.
That's just my 2 cents ... hope it gives you a little info.
---BeerBoy in BC
I bought my General 350 in Victoria when the looney was low. (fine
machine and a bargain) Bringing it into the US was no problem because
it was made in North America. Customs took one look at the big maple
leaf decal and I sailed on through. Unfortunately Grizzly are imported
into the US. For sure the Canadian customs will charge the GST and
maybe PST. Plus there may be an import duty. I suggest you call
Canadian customs and perhaps Grizzly in B'ham may have some first hand
experience with cross-border shopping.
The same factories in Taiwan supply dealers in both the U.S. and
Canada, so it's likely Grizzly's agreement doesn't allow them to
market in Canada. For instance the Grizzly 6" jointer appears
identical to the Busy Bee 6" jointer.
I haven't seen or heard of Canada Customs ever being concerned with
checking for a CSA or C-UL approval. Typically it's just a matter of
handing over your receipt and a credit card.
I'd personally check around locally. Once you add in sales tax in two
countries, duty, four hours of driving and the hassle of dealing with
any problems (would Grizzly send you replacement parts if anything is
missing or bad?), I doubt if there'll be much savings. I also expect
that once the current dealer inventory in Canada is turned over,
prices will come down.
If you do some looking around you should also be able to find a used
Delta or General for the same or better price than a new third-world
clone. The former will not only keep you happier, but will hold its
value much better than the latter.
My understanding is that Grizzly tools are not available in Canada
because Busy Bee Tools is owned by a relative of the owner of Grizzly.
There is some sort of agreement between Busy Bee and Grizzly to the
effect that Grizzly tools are not sold to Canada. Busy Bee sells the
same items (or at least some of them, probably not the full line)
under their name "Craftex" or at least that is what I think their
brand is. I think that you may find that Busy Bee's prices for the
same item are less than you would have to pay if you import Grizzly to
Canada from the US and Pay the exchange and duty. You will have to pay
GST and PST either way.
You should check what I have said with Busy Bee, because I am telling
you this from memory, and I may have forgotten some part of the story.
HomeOwnersHub.com is a website for homeowners and building and maintenance pros. It is not affiliated with any of the manufacturers or service providers discussed here.
All logos and trade names are the property of their respective owners.