For about the fifth time, Google Groups has dumped my membership in two
photo newsgroups. It has dumped it from rec.woodworking a time or two
One has to wonder what kind of criteria they use for dumping. All
worked well until just now. Then, two groups gone and all I can locate
is a new message of no interest whatsoever.
About two more weeks and I'm out of this horseshit, using at least some
kind of real life ISP and NG entry.
I was just reading your post thinking, "man, that stinks", when a few
minutes later it happens to me too. They think I'm not subscribed to
any groups, and clear all the "starred" topics I'm watching. What's up
with that? Any advice?
$3.95 is nothing for a spammer. I used to own an ISP and we would get at
least one spammer a month set up an account and pay the $18.95 on a credit
card. That $18.95 wouldn't get them far as they usually were shut down in
an hour or two.
They require that probably more towards the Snuh trolls actually, it
was implemented after it was found that those yutzs were using
Teranews as an attack base for numerous news groups.
Teranews recieved complaints via they're upstream providers, large
numbers of well written complaints have weight.
Had absolutely horrible luck using Teranews -- abandoned the account
before it had expired just out of frustration and started using Supernews.
Much more civilized and reliable. With Teranews, I couldn't see most of
the pictures on abpw, attempting to open many of them would cause Gravity
to hang such that I had to close it, sometimes the hang was so bad it would
wipe out my subscribed groups. They seemed to reset newsgroup numbering
quite regularly, again requiring re-subscribe and sort out the old posts
from the new. Worst of all, it was unreliable, there were times when I
could go for days without being able to access groups because the the
server was unreachable. Tried both the "free" $3.95 account and (stupidly)
thought the paid service would be better. e-mail to support was most often
not answered, or when it was answered, the answer had little relevance to
the related problem.
If you're gonna be dumb, you better be tough
Supernews is the best - besides the retention and the uptime,
they have a very effective spam filter, and because their admins
actually care about Usenet, they also filter trolls and other
impediments to civilized discourse.
Newsguy is also good with respect to spam filtering, etc. But
they have a thin pipe to the outside world, so they're slow as
molasses for binaries.
Giganews is good if you really care about binaries, but they're
weaker about keeping the discussion groups clean.
Altopia is good if you are or like trolls.
I'm not sure if this is what you are talking about, but the Google
"remember my password" is only good for two weeks and then you have to
re-enter it. If you don't you won't see your "starred" topics.
Although irritating, it is free, and yes, you do lose the groups you
are monitoring after two weeks or so. Easy enough to reset.
Also, from time to time maintenance and redesign issues scrog the data
on this service... note that it is still marked as BETA on the logo.
Free is only so good sometimes....
I know I have to re-enter my password, but this is the first time it's
really forgotten what groups I'm reading and cleared my starred topics.
Does anyone know how to use Mozilla Thunderbird to read this newsgroup?
I tried to set it up, but it said rec.woodworking was not valid or
could not be found or something. Or, are Teranews or Gravity (or any
other free/very cheap newsreaders) available for both Mac and PC?
Mozilla (or Netscape etc) can be used to read/respond/create msgs to any
of the newsgroups, however you still have to use a real ISP to do so as
you have to tell it what server to connect to and what type of
connection it is. I've been using Netscape for years now, works great.
Same kind of setup needed to do email but NG's are a seperate entity.
I'm currently using readfreenews.net and Xnews for my news access. Once
I figured out how to log in, posting has not been a problem. (You do
have to sign up but it's totally free... No binaries, though.)
Old computers are getting to be a lost art. Here at Uncreative Labs, we
I haven't been here much lately. My health is just fine, but good ol'
Earthlink decided to cut off my access to newsgroups. Earthlink does
not offer any kind of high speed connectivity where I live, so I use a
Charter Comm. cable link. The reason Earthlink gave had something to
do with my not using their high speed stuff. Great reasoning.
I had been using Netscape news reader and thinking about switching to
Mozilla. I am currently using Google which works OK I guess. I can't
seem to get a.b.p.f or .w however. Does google support those or am I
doing a recto-cranial inversion.
I also need to find a better ISP. Anybody out there support email and
still have Thunderbird pointed there. Requires a valid email address to
sign up but it's free. I sometimes have to login with userid and
password several times a day, but that's minor for the resonse.
Could you explain?
I've been using Google to accesss UseNet ever since they picked
up DejaNews' archives. I've never subscribed to anything. SInce you
can read and post without subscribing, what does 'subscribing' to
a newsgroup do for you?
What is 'membership' in a newsgroup? What got dumped?
I'm guessing that google stores your info, as opposed to something like Agent or
Outhouse Express, which stores your info on your computer..
If so, you're kind of at their mercy..
Sort of like Yahoo email.. sort of sucks, but ya get what ya pay for..
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