The mayor of New Orleans just called out for help! Take any boat you
have esp flat bottom boats to New Orleans now and use FRS and CB radios
to communicate. THERE IS NO CELL PHONE POWER! Do not rely on your
cell phones. Take all the gasoline, food and water you can. There
is a Sam Club in New Orleans where everyone is meeting with their
boats, although that is not required. Remember that the water is
rising and many are trapped in their homes in the attacks and are
unable to cut a hole in the roof to stand on it , so they will die if
the water rises high enough. There is no electricity whatsoever, so
latens, stoves and batteries are all youll be able to use.
Note: maybe battery operated reciprocating saws????
On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 19:31:21 GMT, firstname.lastname@example.org (Doug Miller)
Or a wrecking bar.
If you go, take a generator if possible. You will not believe how
useful even a lowly 2.5 KW beggar is until you ain't got one in these
situations. Lots of gas and some 2 cycle oil for the chain saw. Water,
yes, but FEMA will have that coming in abundance. Food, stick with
cans. Liquor - don't.
I spent 8 days helping recovery in P'Cola last year - got cap and tee
shirt. It is not fun!
Yes it is. If you sincerely want to help, contact the authorities
first, and they'll tell you how. However, do have something in mind
to offer so you are not wasting their time. This guy is not one of
the authorities [in case you hadn't guessed], and what they don't want
is a mass of people clogging up their organised efforts. They'll put
out the request, and it won't be through newsgroups.
I think the fellow meant that bringing a boat was not required. I heard the
announcement on the news and the part about bringing a boat was a little
confusing. Maybe the original poster was confused as well. What it meant to
me was that if you were bringing a boat, meet at that Sams. The other places
to meet, as I understood it, was the various Red Cross and Salvation Army
And, I don't see any harm in the fellow posting it on newsgroups.
I do if it's not true. Also, for your information cell phones work
from batteries and through satellite. My sister in law found it
useful,and called us when they went through their last couple of
When did that happen? Are they going to tear down all the cell phone
antennas that have been built in the past 15 years? I'd better tell the
guy erecting one 100 feet from where I work to stop it as the satellites are
Unless you have power for a charger, those cell phone batteries will die in
a couple of days.
There are two major problems with cell phones in situations such as this.
The cell sites need power same as anything else. Cut the power and you're
down. There are also far more cell phones out there than there is service.
In most any emergency situation, the service is jammed to the point of being
useless. As for cell phones and satellites, ha, ha,ha...
Emphasis on Bubbas, not bass boats.
In emergency situations there is almost as much difficulty managing
willing but untrained or ill equipped volunteers as there is managing
the crisis in the first place.
IMO, that's a load of condescending horseshit. Oddly enough, the authorities
were asking for just such action from "Bubba's in bass boats" ... their
regard is obviously higher than yours, but still probably not as high as the
rescued, who could care less as long as they are.
You don't know much about emergency management, do you?
Here are some excerpts of information from another newsgroup (amateur
radio, the first line of communications in nearly all major disasters)
Pay close attention to the quotes from officials. Start with Sentence
The on-the-ground situation in SE Louisiana and SW Mississippi is as
bad as television is reporting. Neither state is permitting disaster
relief agencies into the affected areas except on a very limited basis
and only then where conditions are stable. Nearly everyone is still
staging as close by as possible and waiting.
The Louisiana SM (Section Manager, an amateur radion organizational
area manager) (Mickey Cox K5MC) and SEC (Section Emergency
Coordinater-almost always works hand-in-glove with local Emergency
Operations Centers which are usually official city-wide or county-wide
agencies) (Gary Stratton K5GLS) are in communications with state
officials, who have directed them to NOT advertise for volunteers.
Some volunteers have been requested, and these are being staged at the
The situation for the Mississippi SM and SEC, Malcolm Keown W5XX, in
Vicksburg MS is very uncertain. His station is completely on the
ground and EchoLink repeaters in the area are off-the-air. Attempts
to contact Assistant SMs have been unsuccessful.
An AB2M.net Amateur Radio operator registration web site has been
setup and is ready to go public when approval is received. Some
Amateur Radio operators are known to be traveling towards the affected
areas with emergency services and disaster relief agencies as
dedicated communications resources.
Despite everyone's nearly overwhelming desire to help, about all we
can do right now is to make preparations for a prompt response when
the officials finally give their approval. None of us know when that
Being from SE Louisiana, having gone through numerous hurricanes and floods
of catastrophic proportions, losing a home myself to floodwaters, and
talking to relatives in the area as late as this morning, what I obviously
know a lot more about than you is that folks are continuing to help each
other where there are not enough "emergency managers" to go around, despite
what you may hear from the talking heads. politicians, and FEMA bureaucrats
on TV, which is where you are obviously getting your information.
Lord help anyone who subscribes to your "don't try this, we're the
professionals", attitude in the face of emergencies. These folks, especially
the ones outside the view of the TV cameras, are resourceful and there are
damn few "bubbas" in the part of the country, and NONE in an emergency of
So basically LRod, stick your condescension about "crackers" and "bubbas"
where the sun doesn't shine.
You are clearly not one of those, so keep your unprofessional opinions
to yourself. Those better prepared will undoubtedly make some
mistakes, but there'll be a Hell of a lot fewer than those caused by a
bunch of cowboys running around as if they knew what they were doing.
If you do try to go there with a boat you'll be stopped on the
highway. You'll accomplish nothing but clogging up the roads and
motels for people who really need them.
My brother and I tried to get to New York for his daughters. We
couldn't get anywhere close as police blocked the highways. What do
you think would be different here? Damn. I asked for your opinion.
Well, you can give that for what it's worth. [ By the way, they got
out and arrived home in NJ before we did.]
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