Well...you know about opinions! I use the stick type and love it for framing
and the coil type for roofing. Haven't had any problems with either. I think
my decision would be based not only on the price of the nailer but you need
to check the price of the nails too. For my money I'd buy another bostich
The clipped-head hold more in the magazine due to the overlap.
Best place to buy - find out where the framing contractors in your
area buy their nails. Get the nailer which they use - it will be the
most reliable and use the least expensive nails.
On 30 Aug 2004 20:01:16 -0700, email@example.com (Elmar) wrote:
I researched this about a year ago and found out that the guys that repair
them do not recommend Dewalt. After that they said choose the one I want. I
bought a Senco at Lowes that came with a brad nailer for $256.00. I sold the
brad nailer on ebay for $75.00. I am a light user but love my Senco.
Craig makes an excellent point. Within reason, it's not the cost of
the nailer to look at first. Repairability, availability of parts and
cost/availability of nails are better factors to examine. I gave away
my Hilti framer (Hilti no longer makes pneumatic framers) based on the
availability of parts and the scarcity of 17-degree nails.
Many stick nails come in 20-22, 28 or 31 degree inclinations.
If you don't earn a living framing houses, the nail count difference
clipped-to-round won't matter.
1. Go to nearby nail supply and find the most popular box of
round-head 3" framing nails.
2. Read the box to see which nailers will shoot these nails.
3. Get the nailer with the best repair record which is used by local
After purchasing several sencos and a porter cable framer, i suggest either
one. (I use framing guns a lot) the PC had a larger magazine, but was
heavier than the sencos. The Sencos unjam easier. Both perform well. I
would get a clipped head, they are more common. The full round are usually
plastic collated strips, sometimes the plastic will fly onto your body when
shooting and it can hurt. Senco has developed a full head nail to fit a
clipped head nailer-- the nail head is full, but offset from the shank of
the nail, so code issues shouldn't be a problem. Both guns are in the $250
or so range here. -dave
I don't believe so, the FRH has the head of the nail in the middle of the
shank, whereas the FRH for a clipped head nail compatible gun has the full
head of the nail, but it's offset from the shank. Also, clipped head and
typical FRH are collated differently. hope this makes sense! hard one to
Full/round depends on your use and local code, so check it out first.
I live in an area where clipped heads are allowed, but I bought
full-round because it's (very) slightly stronger and looks much
I'm a big supporter of buying used tools. I got a Bostitch framer at a
pawn shop for ~$140. It works perfectly. They let me test fire it in
the store, but there weren't any nails in it. They had a nice return
policy, so I felt no risk. I used it to put up 600 feet of cedar
privacy fencing around my yard, and it worked great. Occasional jam if
I got moving too fast, but nothing regular.
I say go used and save some cash. My compressor, a used 15-gallon
"3HP", is 15 years old, and cost me $50 at a garage sale. It's been
working like a champ for 2 years.
firstname.lastname@example.org (Elmar) wrote in message
Thanks for all of the feedback thus far. I found a refurbed Bostitch
full round nailer at HD for $175.00. I didn't realize HD sold them
but the guy in tools offered on too me. I have 30 days to return it
if it doesn't work well for me. So I will give it a whirl.
Others have made good points.
However, some codes require a .161" vs. the .131" 16p nail. Many of the
less expensive nailers will not fire the .161 nail. I use both the Hitachi
and the PC. They both work fine however the PC has a tendency to double fire
All of the new nailers are designed not to allow rapid-fire nailing.
(Holding trigger and bouncing the gun.)
Although they can be modified easily. Unfortunately, neither is in your
You should be able to buy one used in that range. As for serviceability,
all of the local shops have Hitachi parts is stock and most have the PC
stuff as well.
I prefer the Senco but recently I needed a nail gun on a weekend and bought
a cheap Harbor Freight full head gun for $99.00 and figured it would work
good for this one job.... Its been as good a gun as my Senco and has not
jammed the first time yet and its had about 6 boxes of nails through it so
Sadly I bought the cheap HF clipped head nailer and it's a complete
piece of junk. I've had great luck with their brad nailers but this
framing nailer is garbage. Continually fires multiple times and jams.
First firing of this gun put a 3" nail in the side of my wrist!!!!
I bought the Bostitch today and it seems to shoot VERY well. I also
went to full head versus clipped.
I am using it primarily to build sheds so the codes aren't quite as
stringent as home building.
That's a problem with your technique. If you hold it down and keep the
trigger depressed its going to multiple fire and jam. I used to do that
with a Paslode when I was a rookie. I have done it with my HF, but
usually when I have it in an awkward position.
The HF is so close to the Porter Cable I was considering buying their
trigger kit (to avoid double fires) and seeing if it would fit.
First rule of all pneumatic nailers. Hold body parts further than the
distance of the nail. I've got Sencos otherwise and the nails will
travel sideways now and then because of the grain. I certainly don't
think its the guns fault.
I've got a great xray of, er, "someone's" left index finger with a
framing nail from a Senco nailgun in it. It doubled, the second nail
hit the head of the first nail, and went flying at least 6-8 inches
into the tip of the finger. Went in lengthwise, missed everything
important. All things considered it could have been much worse.
Hasn't doubled before or since, though.
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