I went by my local BORG this morning to grab some screws and naval jelly and
noticed they had a clearance area with quite a few tools. Good deal on a
Dewalt cutoff saw and a Dewalt cordless tool set but there are too many
other things I need right now to buy them just because it was a good deal.
They had about 5 of the little toy Ryobi BTS10 table saws marked down to
$87.00. I picked one up for the fun of it. I did one of those deals where
you lift something up higher than you mean to and nearly throw yourself off
balance because you are expecting it to be heavier than it turns out to be.
And I wasn't expecting it to be very heavy. I put it back down and laughed
with a little shake of my head to be sure the guy standing next to me
wouldn't think I was considering actually buying one or anything. Gotta
protect your image ya know. I paid for my stuff and went home where I took
apart the Baily #7 I got off Ebay to see what I'm in for with my first plane
restoration. It looks to be in pretty darn good shape by the way. I picked
up new Hock blade and cap irons for it yesterday at Woodcraft but the ones
in it were surprisingly square and even somewhat sharp.
Anyway, this is where it gets sad. I started eying that Mahogany over in
the corner my wife expects me to have cut and joined into something that
looks like a box pretty soon. I got a great deal on some scrap pieces that
start about 2.75" X 2.75" and taper to about 2" X 2" ten feet later. Seem
perfect for making corner posts to mortice so they will support the rails of
a frame and panel side. I started trying to figure out how to get the taper
out and said to myself for the 1,000,000th time lately that a tablesaw would
sure be nice for this. Too bad I'm not going to have one until Santa comes
to visit in late December. Then the image of that little Ryobi popped into
my head. I tried to resist but ended up driving over there and grabbing
one. I had a $50.00 giftcard anyway so it only cost me another $50.00 out
of pocket and I bet I can sell it for that when I get a nice saw. I plan to
just use it for rough cutting and then clean up with hand planes afterwards.
So, I now have a tablesaw that requires a table to sit on. If I say a
couple hail Powermatics or hail Unisaws will I be forgiven?
I didn't plan on making such a long post about this but it sure turned out
At some point you have to jump in and buy something. I bought a cheap
Craftsman saw to start with. I did buy a good blade though, and that made a
While your saw may never compare with the bigger, more expensive saws, it
will still cut and you can still make a lot of nice things. Sure, I'm glad
I spent the money and upgraded to a Delta contractor saw and Beis fence.
Sure it is much easier to get an accurate cut, sure it has more capacity.
BUT, I still made some good projects with the cheap saw. I learned a lot
and had a lot of fun.
Take a little extra care in setting up the cuts and you will be amazed at
how well you can do things.
One more thing. I did not sell my saw when I upgraded. I gave it away. I
got as much satisfaction by making another person happy as I got from
cutting the first piece on my new saw.
It was apparently worth it to you at the time to buy it, but how many times
down the road will you think to yourself that it was a waste? The only way
you'll ever be forgiven is when you finally dispose of it, buy a saw that
you know cost you a lot, and then forgive yourself.
I started playing around with it today. It is LOUD and the fence can be
wiggled back and forth several degrees in each direction after being locked
down. The table surface is so small that it's a juggling act to rip
anything over about two feet long. I had to check both sides of the miter
gauge and average the offset from square to get it fairly close since the
face was far from flat. There is a ton of slop between the gauge and the
slot. It is LOUD. Having said all that, I got some pretty decent cuts out
of it while building a little extension table to support the back end. Much
better than I've done with my circular saw that cost quite a bit more that
this whole contraption. I think it is worth what I paid for it and I
believe I can get enough use out of it that I won't be concerned with
recovering any of what I spent. If I had gone for the BT3100 as I started
to, I know it would be more useful now but I would be more concerned with
lost investment when replacement time comes.
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 18:32:42 -0500, "Christopher"
You'll say a lot more than that before you've figured out how to force
that little beast to cut anything resembling a straight line >where
you want it<.
the dash plumber at mindspring dot com
If you keep it in the back of our mind that it is a piece of crap, you will
never do good with it. You will always be saying to yourself "about as good
as I can do considering what I have to work with". You can do very good work
with that saw. It may take a bit longer to set up than something more
expensive but it can be done. I have done and seen even more very good work
with a saw like that.
If I say a
I have to chip in with a me too on this one. I went through just what
you're describing. Once I got over the "I can't wait to be able to replace
this piece of crap" and finally got around to tuning thing thing up and
MAKING stuff with it, I came to find new joy with my little $50 saw. A
crosscut/miter sled does wonders, and getting the blade at 90.0 degrees to
the table makes a world of difference too.
It has myriad problems still, but I can work around enough of them that it's
a lot better than nothing. In fact, I don't even have a table saw on my
list of things that need replacing in the short term. I've decided that
the next time I can spare some cash, I'm going for a better router.
My router really *is* a piece of crap. Went through the same tune-up
process with it, and I can now pronounce it utterly hopeless with a
straight face. It's literally worse than nothing. I might try cutting it
up and seeing if I can mount the motor/collet in something stable to get by
for now, but it's impossible as it is.
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan < firstname.lastname@example.org>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
Wow, I think that is the most words I've seen in one of your posts. Good
philosophy. I have no doubt that the limitations of this little saw can be
overcome and good results obtained. It would sure be nice to just set the
fence and cut with confidence though.
I bought the cheap Delta table saw about 1 1/2 yrs ago for around $100.
When i got it I had no serious interest in woodworking. The price was right
and I figured it was good for plunkin around. A few times I almost had
enough saved for a contractor saw but something always came up and I didn't
get it. I'll probably get one here in the next few months but I wouldn't do
without that little saw. I put a freud 80 tooth blade on it and have built
quit a bit. It's a long shot from what I want but it cuts wood and if one is
careful setting the fence it will cut a board straight. So enjoy the saw,
you'll get a lot more use out of it then you think. When I get a good
contractor saw I'm holding on to this one. I'm a auto tech by trade but
also do some carpentry on the side and it is handy to be able to load the
little table in the back of the truck and take it to a job.
That's why we each have a personal checking account. Most of our salaries
go into the joint account but we each get a little money each month to do
with as we please. No need to ask permission and no fights about it in our
two years of marriage so far. I think she wastes her money and she thinks I
waste mine but neither of us gets upset with the other about it.
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