For Silvan

My wife informs me, information via oldest daughter who teaches Latin in Bedford, that the starting salary for teachers in Bedford County now 30 grand.

Given the living costs here, that's an admirable price to pay, though I'll bet they still hire a fair share of twits and incompetents.

Charlie Self "He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire." Sir Winston Churchill

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Charlie Self
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srwood

"I'll bet they still hire a fair share of twits and incompetents."

Only a "twit" would make a comment like this about teachers. Education is one the most difficult and underpayed proffesions out there. Before you make ignorant statements I'd like to see you spend eight hours with

160 kids and deal with their self rightous parents for 30 grand a year. Then you might reth> My wife informs me, information via oldest daughter who teaches Latin in
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srwood

Did someone see the head to my hammer? It seems to have flown off the handle.

-j

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J

Good, then I assume we can count our your help in privatizing the school system. Since Teachers=Good without exception (according to you) and Problems=SomewhereElse, then a private school system will benefit teachers immensely insofar as they will get paid more, have more control in the classroom, and be able to permanently expell students that are disruptive (all things that we cannot do now in the Public system).

BTW, anyone who believes that teachers are never the problem is even more naive than someone who believes they are the entire problem. The NEA is one of the most vile, destructive, shortsighted, and plain stupid organizations as regards to education and it is run for and by ... TEACHERS...

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Tim Daneliuk

so, all teachers are great and none of them are twits?

wow.. must be a perfect world, what color is the sky in it?

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mac davis

"underpayed"? "proffesions"? "self rightous"? "unrelevent"? "degressing"?

And you have the nerve to call a professional writer a twit and claim to be married to an English teacher? LOL!

B.

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Buddy Matlosz

I hate to break it to you, but that fact (your wife being an English teacher) doesn't seem to be having all that great of an effect down this way

After 12 years of the most recent battle(s), I can certify without doubt, and provide ample proof, that we have a _large_ contingent of "twits and incompetents" teaching here in Houston ISD.

AAMOF, the higher up the chain of bureaucracy you go in good old HISD, the higher the preponderance of "twits and incompetents", maxing out at about the PhD Ed level, mainly on account of them being educated beyond their intelligence.

So, before you get terminal panty twist over the matter, and wear out the justification for your argument, ask her to please make the "twits and incompetents" down this way disappear also.

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Swingman

Oh my, not much education made it your way though did it. Why not have your wife, the English Teacher, proofread your notes before you send them?

In my own 16 years of school, every teacher was perfect and all the teachers my kids had were perfect also. All teachers are perfect aren't they?

They are all underpaid, even the ones driving the brand new Lexus (well, they did trade in the Caddy), the one that gets a new car every six months, the one that has a brand new car, pickup, boat and camper, the one that send her own kids to private school. Just a few months ago I reviewed the school budget in our town. Make me want to make a career change.

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Edwin Pawlowski

nbdancer blathers:

They missed with you, didn't they. Actually, most educators are overpaid, IMO.

Been there. Done that. Wouldn't take the shit from my own kids that you need to take from the little idiots in school, so I went back to things I preferred.

Your wife needs to work on you.

Charlie Self "He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire." Sir Winston Churchill

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Charlie Self

Or someone who had been a teacher or been around a lot of teachers. My wife was a teacher for seven years in an inner city school. She has a _lot_ to say about twits and incompetents who taught there.

Having been in some of those classrooms as a volunteer demonstrator of various things, I believe she's right.

And your wife is an English teacher?

The word is 'irrelevant' unless you're trying to make a distinction which isn't found in Fowler's.

A lot of things are destroying our schools -- including policies and conditions that drive out good teachers and leave the field to twits and incompetents.

--RC

Projects expand to fill the clamps available -- plus 20 percent

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rcook5

Thanks for the note. Sorry you stirred up so much shit in so doing.

I need to talk to my friend, who gets paid just that to be the electrician who maintains all the schools in the county.

He's a fun friend to have around. I think a couple three cases of Miller Lite and cost of materials and I can swap out my Federal Pacific panel.

He gets the beer AFTER. :)

Of course, not right now, or anything in the forseeable future I don't imagine. I'm glad I bought that wood when I did, because there won't be any more wood for a long time. (It's a good thing that I've put it in the house to sit, and I've seen some big cracks open up on the ends in the last two days, right? Better to find out now than after I cut into them? Will this decrease the chances of something ugly happening, or is there probably still stress in the parts that haven't cracked?)

Renee's in the hospital. They did a gallbladder ultrasound on her about three weeks ago, and took a wait and see attitude. Said she had a few small stones, but would probably be fine for months or years. She keeled over at work today. Any damn thing but fine.

Pancreas, liver, all screwed up. She's in the hospital for at least 48 hours on an IV diet trying to get her guts to "cool off" so they can take out her gallbladder. Whateverthehell THAT means. "Cool off." They were heavy on euphemisms and vague on details. I don't quite understand what's going wrong with her. I thought it was absolutely spectacular when some medico (doctor, nurse, specialist? I didn't really notice who was who) came in and told her "You look like shit!" Fabulous.

Yeehaw. We were trying to see if we could wait on the medical bills, which is why we were so quick to accept the doc's recommendation to wait and see (since she wasn't in pain, and hadn't been for a few days), but that plan just backfired bigtime. Wish she had had the damn thing out three weeks ago. Would have been cheaper to pay for the surgery without three days in the hospital to go with it. I imagine it probably costs a grand a day for luxurious accommodations in the most posh establishment in town. I hear their glucose is delicious.

Bah humbug.

The bright side is that I'm already starting to worry about the money, which means I'm no longer quite so worried about her. She's just sleeping now, and if she doesn't eat anything, all the gut wrenching pain and nausea should be behind her. She's probably not going to be too happy after three days without a drink, but I think she'll come through this OK. One thing about her naturally lethargic, supine, couch-aphilic nature is that she doesn't really have a problem with the idea of having to lay around and sleep all day. She loves to lay around and sleep all day. That woman can do some sleeping. She works hard when she has to, and when she doesn't have to work, she sleeps.

Better her than me on that, as much as I hate to say something like that. I don't wish this on anyone, but I guess if one of us has to spend two days doing nothing but drinking through a hole in the arm and sleeping, it's better her than me. She sleeps a lot. She'll sleep through most of this without a thought. I OTOH have always got to be doing something. Writing, touching, feeling, playing, thinking, reading, SOMETHING. If I can't find some of the above to do, I get bored and fall asleep, and sleeping is a big waste of time. If I had to go through what she's going through now, I would go absolutely NUTS. Nothing to do for two days but watch cable TV and sleep? I had to do that once, when my truck broke down, and I had to sit in a motel while they fixed my head gasket. I wasn't bedridden, and I wasn't proscribed from eating, but just having noting to do but sleep and watch TV for two days drove me so nuts that I have vowed to never, ever even remotely hint of straying from the straight and narrow path, because that's what jail would be like. After two days in jail, I'd be ready to hang myself just to have something to do.

Sorry I'm babbling. I haven't quite figured out what to do with myself yet. I can hold down the fort, and the boss has already figured out some way to do without me the rest of the week (which probably means he's driving in my stead), but I'm really out of sorts without her here. Eleven years, and while I regularly sleep alone on the road, I have never slept alone in my house, except, probably I guess when the kids were born. It's eerie here now, even though normally she would just be in the other room asleep anyway. There's just something not right about knowing she's across the way in the Sugar Juice Hotel being taken care of by complete strangers. Hey, I know Dave in Fairfax is one of those complete strangers, in a manner of speaking. I'm not putting down nurses. Still, it's MY job. I took care of her when she puked all over herself today. I sat by her bedside for seven tedious hours watching her sleep. It's my job. But I can't be in two places at once, and I had to come home and put my kids to bed. That's my job too. I've just never been torn like this.

Ugh. Flowers first thing in the morning, and then I guess I just have to play it by ear.

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Silvan

Wed, Dec 15, 2004, 2:32am snipped-for-privacy@users.sourceforge.net (Silvan) claims: Nothing to do for two days but watch cable TV and sleep?

I spent most of 11 days in hospital doing that. Except I didn't watch TV. I could never do that at home, but sure did there. Maybe it's the military background, but I got to where I can just sort of switch off when I don't have anything to do - and I sure didn't there. Kinda nice tho, relaxing, and having my meals brought to me. Except I'd had a colon resection (and they took the gall bladder while they were at it), so had a tube down my nose, an IV in my arm, , a tube in my incision, not even allowed wate - just in case. Then finally got jello and something else - after I finally passed a little something - to prove they hadn't sewn me closed I guess. Then I got jello and something else. Then breafast the next day, not too bad. Then lunch was a large lump of some kind of absolutely horrible hash or something, that I couldn't have digested even if I had been in perfect condition. Then they released me.

JOAT We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust the sails.

- unknown

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J T

Is there anything you're not an expert on?

You know it's sad that these people bow down to you because you've published. Sadly, the only place you're published now is here. Didn't Woodcraft fire you because you were an incompetent twit?

Why don't you go in the shop (if you even have one) and do some actual woodworking, you scott phillips wannabe.

FOAD, Rich

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rsmith5296

Silvan responds:

That's what the boots are for.

That's good timing. Send him here. I've got an FP panel, too. So far, no problems. But I'll probably get a buddy to switch it out for me...he's chief building inspector for the county, so it saves time.

Roanoke Memorial?

All you can do. Hope she's fine quickly. They wanted to yank my gall bladder a few years ago, but I nixed it. There was no real need from my understanding, so I felt like I was being used as an object of study by a young surgeon. I'm not in the business, yet, of being a practice quilt for these turkeys.

Jeez. Now I've insulted the medicos. I wonder who will jump in my shit this time.

Charlie Self "He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire." Sir Winston Churchill

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Charlie Self

JOAT responds:

Yeah. Pancreatitis. But it was something like 4 days before they let me float gently to the ground, withdrawing the morphine and demerol. That was nearly 4 years ago, and I'm still grouchy.

Yeah. When they realize that you're actually near starvation, after they yank the IV feed, there is a tendency to see if soft stuff goes down and stays down. Then they send you home instead of feeding you decently. Cheaper because now they can't charge you $300 a day for meals.

Charlie Self "He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire." Sir Winston Churchill

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Charlie Self

rsmith blurts:

Couple things. One is the reason that goofballs like you exist.

Woodcraft eliminated my job, according to them, because they were changing directions. They've yet to decide what that direction is, IMO, but I invite you to read their newsletter and see if you can find some versions of the one I wrote to compare it to.

Oh, yeah. Point me at those who bow down to me. I could use an ego lift this morning and I've never been able to find them.

As for where I'm published, your lack of reading ability doesn't astound me at all. It fits your personality type: none.

Scott's a nice guy. I'm a prick. The transition is impossible at this late stage in my life.

Charlie Self "He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire." Sir Winston Churchill

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Charlie Self

HHhhhmmmmmm. Where do you buy your "rose colored (coloured for those in the GWN) glasses"? This is my 7th year volunteering in elementary school, all day every day, with my best friend, who is a "special ed" teacher working with 2,3,4th graders with emotional problems. We see it all . . ADD, ADHD, abuse of all sorts and the results of same.

There are a lot of fine dedicated teachers "out there", and a fair amount of twits and incompetents. I wouldn't say it's teachers who are ruining the schools, although they contribute their fair share. It's the politicians, lawyers, and the PC nuts(the three words are sometimes synonymous), parents who can't or won't take responsibility for their children, and need I go on?

I'm sure "srwood"'s wife is a hard working teacher, but just where in our modern school systems does she have to put up with 160 kids for 8 hr.? We've all heard about overcrowded schools, but that's ridiculous. Maybe 160 in the whole school? Maybe she's actually a principal?

EVERY profession has it's share of twits and incompetents, but it seems the only *sin* is having enough vision and common sense to see them and speak out about it, especially if they are in the "public domain".

I'll get down off my soapbox now, before I really get wound up, plus it's time for me to "assume the position" and BOW DOWN to our great God Charlie!(LOL)

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Norman D. Crow

Charlie said: Scott's a nice guy. I'm a prick. The transition is impossible at this late stage in my life.

Thanks for the laugh, I needed one today......

Mutt

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biggmutt53

Norm Crow responds:

Man, if you can even bend over far you're lighter than I am!

Charlie Self "He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire." Sir Winston Churchill

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Charlie Self

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