Yes this is on topic,
I would like to ask those of you who have work areas that are on some
form of concrete, what kind of shoes do you wear while there? Do you
use any kind of mats to stand on? Last, but not least are you flat
No I am not going to try to sell you something, just want to know what
I need to change to help my legs and back while standing in the shop.
Being 300lbs does not help, I know.
I have never really been able to say for sure that being flat footed
has been a problem for me, but I may need to look for different shoes
while standing for long periods of time in the work shop.
Thanks for your input!
Man, I feel your pain. My floor is wood, I'm not flat-footed, and I
only weigh 165, but I still have foot and back pain when I stand in the
shop for extended periods. I've tried walking shoes and running shoes,
but the best footwear I've found is lightweight hiking boots. My
favorites are Sierra Lites by Hi Tech. They won't break the bank at
only about $65 a pair. They have better arch support than either of
the others, and my back seems to hurt less too. I'm not sure how being
flat-footed would effect that equation.
"You may not always get what you pay for, but you always pay for what
Two flatfooted females in my family. Only thing they've found other than
the orthotics is Birkenstocks. Both of them are able to wear and walk in
them for extended periods. I do insist they break the "rules" of
Birkenstocks and shave their legs, though.
Keep a couple of different heel heights available, wear orthotics or
Birkenstocks - I have clogs - and if you're turning a long time, put a six
by six chunk where you can raise one foot on it while turning. Does wonders
for the back as it transfers the load.
I'll second the birkenstocks - no doubt the most comfortable
shoes/sandals I've ever tried (once they're broken in). They do make
shoes also, including hiking boots and safety shoes with steel toes -
they cost a lot, but worth it in my opinion, and you might find a deal
I haven't tried the anti-fatigue mat yet, but now that they're on sale
at Rockler, I'm going to very soon.
I have a couple different types of anti-fatigue mats in my shop and
they do help extend the amount of time I can stay on my feet. I
recommend them to anyone that do not have them and stand on concrete.
As for shoes, I have tried many different kinds of shoes and cheap
tennis shoes are by far the worst for me. I have a high dollar pair of
safety shoes that are great as long as you are moving(walking) and not
standing constantly. If I stand in them for extended periods, like
doing lathe work and such, my ankles and lower back just kill me and it
even lingers into the next day as well. I plan on going to a foot doc
in the near future just to be sure I don't have a foot problem coming
on. This last year it all has gotten worse. I know age has nothing to
do with it either.........LOL!! Just turn 40 last month, and compared
to some on here that is young by a long shot.
I will have to look into the Birkenstocks, my wife like to wear them.
I just would never thought about them as a shop shoe. Go figure!
Leon (in U_9xf.60863$ email@example.com) said:
| For about 18 years and standing on concrete I wear Rockport Hiking
I've worn the same for the last three years. I weigh 150 and have flat
feet. I have 1/4" thick rubber pads in front of tools where I stand
for more than a half hour at a time - and the pads do make a
DeSoto, Iowa USA
I think that the problem needs to be tackled in a different way, though
shoes are not to be discounted, a lot of that I believe is marketing. I
think that flexibility and strength are the key factors in lower back
and leg pain. For three years I have done my best to attend a weekly
Pilates and yoga class. The Pilates concentrates on core strength and
the yoga on flexibility. All of my back issues have completely gone
away once I started on this path. I am 45 years old, while this is not
old, it is old enough to start having these problems.
I am pretty sure that if the hamstrings are flexible and the
stomach/core is strong then shoes will not be quite as critical. I hope
I did not offend anyone, I am usually a lurker, but I truly feel
strongly about this. As we get older and the years of sitting start
effecting us more all of these things start to take their toll. I am
not the great all knowing one, but have just found that this works for
me and hopefully for someone else also.
In '94 I apparently tried to destroy my spinal cord. I was able to
recover without surgery. I lost 2 years, but I was able to do some
light work in limited amounts. I also weigh 165,, give or take 5lb.
Physical training is important to all of us. I slack off occasionally
and I can tell a difference in everything I do from the way I walk to
the way I feel when I sneeze. A back injury stays with you for the rest
of your life. I'm 40, doing much better than I was at 30.
I wear Wolverines, Wellingtons. I add arch support when I'm breaking
them in, and replace the supports annually. I wear one pair to work
every day. I've had them for 3 years now. Another pair waits in the
closet and goes with me on Sundays until they're broke-in.
Mats in the shop? Oh - Yeah, Imagine what a Kentucky boy uses for shop
mats. Coal mine conveyor belts. They're 4' wide and cut with a utility
knife. Stiff rubber with a fabric inner layer that makes them last
forever under foot traffic. Usually cheap too! Sometimes I can get them
for free in sections 3' to 12' long. Over 6' long and it's all I can do
to handle them by myself. That stuff is HEAVY. They make fantastic p-up
truck bed liners too.
Tom in KY, You've only got one back, when it's gone, well, you'd be
surprised what all else goes away with it!
Well, I am no light weight (265), and my feet and back tend to get
irritated when I stand at the lathe for long periods of time. I do have
some mats on the floor, and they help. I can't wear Birkenstocks
because of my foot shape, but New Balance makes shoes in the wide
sizes. I do a couple of things to help. I think posture is a big thing
in eliminating back pain. It is an effort because I don't think as much
about sucking in the old gut to impress the ladies as I used to.
Strengthening the stomach and back muscles will keep the back in line.
Having the lathe at the proper height is another big factor. If you
have to bend over at the waist to turn anything, that will put stress
on your back (most of us walk erect). Also, I wear pressure stockings.
Not the prescription type (yet) but the Dr. Scholls (I think)style.
They make a big difference on how your feet feel at the end of the day.
Some times I will take a break and hit the exercycle for a few minutes
to get tho blood flowing again. Tap your feet in time to the music.
Shift your weight back and forth. Oh yes, this year I will loose some
of those ghosts from Christmas Pasts.
Agree totally. I can't believe that these obese posters think
that what they put *under* their feet will fix the problems
they've caused by what they put *over* them.
Go for a decent *fast* walk for an hour, 4-5 miles, a couple of
times a week, your hammies and glutes will gain so much tone
they'll hold your pelvis upright and suck your gut in, stop it
hanging forward and dragging your back further out of line. You
might even lose some of that excess weight. I wasn't overweight,
but when I started walking *hard* for one hour a week, I lost
a Kg (2.2lb) *each week* for the first 8 weeks.
There you go. Just the thing for everyone. Unfortunately, after three
knee surgeries, none caused by obesity, and arthritis in my feet, a
fast walk is something I watch other people do. I'd guess some more of
us fat slobs who put too much "over" our feet are in the same boat,
whether from injury or illness.
What you can or can't believe has no relevance outside your own family.
Lots of things are righteously correct until you get a bullet through an
ankle, or pelvis broken in half, or emphyzema from smoking too many years -
and a new wife who cooks great food.
Oh, man. No bullet strikes, just too much time falling off of off-road
motorcycles, sometimes with the bike on top. Do that for 10-15 years, and
zing. Add in a genetic predisposition to arthritis, COPD (I quit smoking
nearly 17 years ago, about a decade later than was really helpful), and a
second wife, who, while not new, is one helluva country cook.
I haven't hit 300 yet, but I've come much too close at times, though I'm now
slowly--ever so slowly--backing off. But until I quit smoking, I still only
weighed about 210 or 215 at the most, and could still drop a pound or two by
missing a meal. These days, I gain weight at the thought of food.
I hear you Charlie. There is something about reading a cook book that puts
on 10 pounds these days. I can not even blame it on my wife (first and only,
I hope), I do the cooking. The old hair seems a bit grayer too. Funny, it
does not appear to have anything to do with footwear. I am a little envious
over folks who have enough time in a work shop to worry about it hurting a
back, but not envious enough to have back pain.
I wish my shop time was invested in building things more often than
cleaning and shooting photos.
Right now, I'm wearing a pair of slip-on $30 LL Bean shoes, with VA
prescribed orthotic inserts. My back has never been a shop problem, but
my feet and knees can make up for that with any other footwear. I'm
supposed to be getting some orthotic shoes in a week or 10 days.
Probably combine those with the inserts and see what happens.
This has been a good thread, mostly, I now have some things to look
into and some I have tried already.
I fly a desk as my vocation as an IT administrator and sitting on my
arse eating bonbons all day does nothing for my school girl figure.
This I do know does nothing for my health, but 30 years of putting it
on will not drop off overnight by walking 10 miles daily with the wrong
Thanks Folks for the useful info.
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