Flouorscent Lights in the cold

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What brand of fluorescent lights work best in the cold? My garage would be unheated until the morning I plan go to out. Are some brand/type of fixtures and lights better for these conditions?
Thanks, Frank.
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On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:10:36 -0400, "FJ Shepley & JM Pfohl"
Cold weather fixtures.
Really! <G> Ask for them at an electrical supplier.
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On 21-Oct-2003, B a r r y B u r k e J r .

My local Borg sells them. If you live in a cold winter area, your Borg probably does as well. I don't remember seeing cold weather versions of the T8s though. If you're starting from scratch, go for the T8s - they'll be cheaper in the long run. But you'll have to look for the cold weather versions.
My understanding is that they are little more than regular fixtures with a different ballast. Electronic or magnetic or something. They cost a lot more unfortunately.
Mike
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I used high output fluorescent fixtures and tubes in my garage in Ottawa, Canada and they worked even when it was very cold. You can't use HO tubes in a standard fixture or vise versa; you need to get both.
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i put shop lights in an unheated, uninsulated garage in chicago, but they haven't had it cold yet. from what i read, you need T8 ballast and bars. at least i hope so. :)
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FJ Shepley & JM Pfohl wrote:

Depends on how cold cold is. I live in southwestern Virginia, USDA zone 6b, and it doesn't get below 0 F very often. I have regular cheapass $5 shop lights with regular cheapass GE bulbs. If I go out there on a cold day the lights take a moment to start, and flicker for quite some time, but they eventually level out and perform normally.
Actually, that was true of my old lights, before I blew them out with a really stupid electrical blunder that fed them 220. I have no idea how the new, even more crappy cheapass shop lights will fare.
I'm going to miss my shop soon. :( I don't know how long it's been since I picked this up as my current thing to do, but I've been out there several hours a day, every chance I get, for a good long time now. It's hard for me to consider how that's all about to be taken away, but I can't afford to buy a heater, so that's that. :(
I hate winter. :(
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Silvan wrote:

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I live in MD and use my unheated shop in the winter. I grew up in South Dakota and learned some things about staying warm. One thing that really helps is layered clothing. You don't want to have loose & floppy clothing in the shop, but multiple layers of tee shirts work well. 3 tee shirts under a shirt and a vest are quite warm.
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Mark Jerde wrote:

What part of MD? If you live somewhere around D.C.-ish that's one thing, but if you live nearer to Cumberland, that's another matter entirely. :)

Problem is with fingers. I can't do anything in gloves, and when it's bitterly cold, my fingers don't want to move. I'd also be mildly concerned about frozen carbide teeth fracturing and such like.
I might try it and see though. I have more projects in progress than I have warm days left. I guess I'll know it's too cold when I decide I'd rather drink hot chocolate than make a whatever.
I can handle the layering thing you speak of. I'm a truck driver, and I have to tailgate the freight. I go from a heated cab to freezing weather, and then I work up a sweat. I have to put things on and take things off constantly, depending on where I am, and my activity level. I'm more worried about my poor widdle fingers, and problems with cold steel.
Finishing becomes a problem too.
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What part of MD Guys, I was in the Gaithersburg area fro 28 years, Worked in Thurmont, and Hagerstown also. Also you cannot afford not to have heat, it can get cold enough to affect your glue your finishing and the wood itself. You do not need a lot of heat but you need some.
And that finger thing is true whatever you are doing with your hands forget about what skill you posses it will become a little redundent.
Even here in Mesa AZ, 103 degree's yesterday, not a typo 103 friggin degree's. Come Dec & Jan and sometimes into Feb Morning Temps will be about 40 degree's, A heatwave by many standards as i grew up in Boston , and was stationed in Maine for 3-1/2 years
But at 40 with the humidity at about 15 you absolutely shiver your ass of till about 10 am when it will get to be about 60
I still have a snow shovel from when i was back east. I use it to shovel sawdust in the shop, It has shoveled a lot of sawdust in the past 9 years I also use it to shovel that damned sunshine off my walk. <G>
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George M. Kazaka wrote:

You suck! :)
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Silvan wrote:

Bowie, which is halfway between D.C. and Annapolis.

I sometimes use those brown, lightweight cloth gloves when it's cold in the shop.

Long or short haul? I've had this romantic notion about doing long haul 18 wheeler for a year or so. The way the market is for computer programmers I may get the chance... ;-)

ACK.
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Bowie MD, sort of knew it well at one time . Built all the Cabinets for a Beauty Salon, and also did the entire store front it Diagonal oak panels Was back in the late 70's do not not if it is still there or not, It was in a open shopping center across from the Bowie Mall Heard that the closed it in, Don't know for sure I do miss Annopolis I could easily become a wharf rat there, Just can't afford it <G>
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George M. Kazaka wrote:

Does the name "Free State Mall" ring a bell?

Yup. Bring money.
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Mark Jerde wrote:

That sounds like "Market Place" with the diagonal oak motif. I moved from Bowie to Calvert county (God's Country) :-) 3 years ago. It's getting awful crowded up there. We'll probably see you down here eventually, everyone moves down sooner or later :-) A father of a kid on my sons football team told me that 90% of his subdivision is comprised of Bowie/Crofton transplants.
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Don't remember but will e-mail the customer that I built it for, He has become a personal freind and still lives in Gaithersburg, I designed and built probably about 30 Beauty salons for him over the years I know he does not own this one anymore.
I think it used to be called Bowie shoping center and was right on the 450 ??
George

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George M. Kazaka wrote:

There are three of them close together on 450, "Marketplace," "Free State" and "Hilltop." I've been here about 10 years, the names could have changed before. Like many strips & small malls around the U.S. these have vacancies. "Marketplace" in particular is almost completely empty, just a Safeway & a few small stores left. There's been a lot of new development along 50 & 301. Target, Borders, ..., Lowe's, Borg, ..., Sears, ...
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Mark Jerde wrote:

Yeah, right next to Crofton. I know where that is. You're zone 7 I think. Definitely milder winters than here.

Regional OTR. I guess you'd call it medium haul. I've been doing it going on seven years now. Email me if you want me to talk you into it or talk you out of it. I can take the romance out of it, arm you with facts, and help you decide whether or not it's really something you want to do. (No, I'm not a recruiter.)
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Try cutting off the tips off of the gloves, just the last joint. You regain the feel, with minnimal heat loss.
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Morgans wrote:

What, and go around looking like a hobo? :)
I should try that. I've done it with those brown gloves, and they weren't much warm, but maybe if I cut the tips off of a pair of good gloves...
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On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 01:35:58 -0400, Silvan

Get a pair of thinsulate-lined wool gloves with a mitten flip top. Pretty cheap. That's what I use, and I have to deal with real cold, not your southern t-shirt & shorts winter weather. ;-)
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