Anyone here has any experience with plywood flooring?
I am considering this as an inexpensive alternative to other flooring.
Almost all (bathrooms can wait a bit) all of the flooring for 1400 sq
ft home needs replacing. Currently it is 70% carpet, 20% sheet vinyl
and 10% vinyl squares.
Carpet is 20 years old, worn and coming apart at all the seams. Twenty
year old sheet vinyl isn't as bad; one major hole in washroom and two
small ones in bathrooms; mostly it's all discoloring. Vinyl tiles are
press-n-stick to OSB and are shifting badly. My hunch is the texture
of the OSB isn't right for those kind of tiles.
I'm trying to ascertain how well plywood will hold up, if properly
treated, and how difficult is it to put down. I've seen some wild
patterns but I plan to stick to a simple design, maybe a fancier edge
or something depending on cost and labor (if I do this myself).
Would standard wood flooring treatments be enough on plywood? Or are
there better, less expensive options. I don't want a 'cheap' floor, or
cheap looking. I can't afford right now to shell out 6-7k or more
(price quotes) for vinyl planks, even though I do like the look and
quality of those.
Yes I have been searching for other options. Yes I have checked
pricing everywhere I could find within a reasonable distance. I really
would prefer to do this all as one floor and keep the cost down,
especially if I end up having to pay for labor. Thoughts?
On Friday, February 13, 2015 at 12:25:25 PM UTC-6, Casper wrote:
I'm supposing this home is on pillars, not a slab.
I might suspect the OSB has started to expand because of moisture, over tim
e. I suspect you'd need to pull up the OSB, if its damaged that way, or i
n any way. It may no longer be a proper subflooring, anymore. Do you kno
w if there is other subflooring, under the OSB, and if it's in good shape?
A moisture barrier is a consideration, somewhere in the mix. Is there pres
ently one and is it still in good shape.
I'm not familiar with plywood flooring, but I suppose you'd have to glue it
down, maybe toe-nailed on the edges. You'd need a good subfloor to glue
Other than these thoughts, I have no info/knowledge on the ply flooring an
d for what type of home it's best recommended for, i.e., pillared or slab,
I am considering this as an inexpensive alternative to other
I would worry about the seems when using plywood. The subfloor would
have to be very, very flat and true for me to even consider it. You're
talking four foot seems in both directions for every "tile."
The slightest bit of dip or rise four feet away is going to mess up the
seem and cause a lip.
One advantage of a laminated, engineered "plank" system is its ability
ride the rises and dips in the subfloor.
As for the finish... there's almost nothing you can do on your own that
will match the durability and thickness of the finishes they can put on
in the factory at a flooring manufacturer. I'm always amazed at how
durable that stuff is.
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
Sounds like you are assuming 4ft x 8ft. I have no intention of laying
out full sheets. I would either cut down into planks or squares.
Wood floors can do that too if they are installed correctly. I have
seen parquet floors and regular hardwood done badly.
A factory can do both good and bad finishes. A friend had laminate
installed, professionally, and it is now buckling and peeling. I told
him it was not a good choice for his kitchen but he wouldn't listen.
His family makes too much of a watery mess for that flooring.
Again, if it were in my budget, I would get the vinyl laminate I have
already picked out but locally there is nothing under $5sq/ft+fees.
Home Despot or Lowes has that stuff on a roll that I don't want.
Well, I'm glad your satisfied, but...
Bruce is extremely low quality and badly lacking in durability.
At $2.99 sq, I'd say it's substantially overpriced.
You can probably find Anderson for not much more (altho you
might have to order it shipped, which adds to the cost).
Anderson is a much higher quality product.
Incidently, I would advise against buying any kind of wood
flooring at either Home Depot or Lowes. Not only is the
product cheap (in the quality sense), but the glue they carry
is also a lesser-quality glue. You won't pay a whole lot
more if you go to a flooring dealer.
(btw, you do not want to tear out a glue-down floor, so make
sure you choose right the first time. Don't ask me how I
I said don't ask how I know about tearing out a glue-down floor :-)
Had to take up a Bruce floor which did not hold up in a home
office...the finish just wore away, and then the planks started
Now, Bruce makes a wide selection of flooring, and yours may
hold up better, especially if it's low-traffic. But for someone
looking to do an install, I would definately look at other
vendors. From personal experience I know Anderson is good,
even their lower-priced lines, but I'm sure there are others.
On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 22:46:48 -0500, email@example.com wrote:
Likely engineered hardwood. - or even more likely, Bruce Laminate -
which is far from "hardwood" as you can get. Laminate is a picture of
hardwood decoupaged onto some of the crappiest thick paperboard you
can find.. There are a few companies that produce a durable laminate,
but it will cost as much as real quality hardwood.
On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 20:13:37 +0000 (UTC), John McCoy
If you buy the same glue at Home Dspot, Lowes, or your local
"flooring store" it will be the same quality. Sometimes the flooring
store has better stuff available, but that is also true of places like
Lowes and Home Despot. If you buy the cheapest crap either place has,
you get junk. If you buy the best either place has, you MAY be
overpaying for your requirements, but it is still cheaper than having
to do it over because you cheaped out.
I generally check around and don't buy either the cheapest or the most
My experience is buying the same quality, same brand product from the
big box stores or from a real retailer (flooring shop, etc) there is
not a big difference in price, and if you need advice, the advice you
get from the "expert" is a lot better than what you get from the
firstname.lastname@example.org wrote in news:umfvdallijfhnepvi04me54slqijranofm@
No, that is not true. In the case of glue for engineered wood
floors, Home Depot or Lowes will have _one_ brand available,
and it will be the lowest cost one.
The flooring store likely will give you a choice, and if they
don't their one brand will be a better quality one.
On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 00:13:06 +0000 (UTC), John McCoy
Lowes carries Bostik , Bruce, Tecsun, Mohawk, and USFloor. 3 1/2 or 4
gallon containers $160, $89, $190, $220, and $192 US prices
repectively. I think the despot carries Roberts and Taylor - at least
2 different products from Taylor - MS+ and Tuff-Lok at $134 and $76
respectively, with the Roberts at about $95
Flooring experts are using the Bostik product, as well as Tecsun,
Bruce, and Mohawk (depending on the brand of flooring they sell)
Are you looking on the website or in the store? My store
carries Bruce. That's the only hardwood flooring adhesive
they actually stock.
Now, they have a ton of choices on the website - but if
you're going to special order it, you might as well go to
a flooring store anyway.
On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 17:08:22 +0000 (UTC), John McCoy
My stores, locally, don't stock the hardwood either, so if you are
going to order the wood, you may as well order the adhesive as well.
ANd if youy are ordering it, you may as well order the stuff
recommended by the manufacturer. No?? If Bruce Hardwood says use Bruce
adhesive - use it. Then they don't have a leg to stand on if something
goes wrong. - or use Bostik - the "industry standard".
email@example.com wrote in news:1392ea5m8ocne2gjprgv8c7d6gtd9nkoc9@
Well, that was sort of my point.
Good advice, I'd agree.
Well, I wouldn't dispute that either. I just wouldn't use Bruce
period - as noted above, my experience is that it's a low quality
product, and you can get better quality for a similar price from
On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 17:16:07 +0000 (UTC), John McCoy
Bruce makes the full gammit, from photo-finished dense cardboard to
high quality solid hardwood - to cover the financial limitations of
it's projected customer base, and to get it's products on the shelves
of everything from flooring express to wallmart to Shangrla custom
flooring and diamonds!!
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