Festool (not Fats) Domino and such ilk.

This is an interesting tool. Same money as the Domino, roughly. The standard 32 mm spacing is appealing.
http://www.hoffmann-usa.com/htm/pds32/pds32.htm
Add a mitre saw:
http://www.hoffmann-usa.com/htm/miter_saws/MS35SF_Double_Miter_Saw.htm
and then find out we're doing it all wrong:
http://www.hoffmann-usa.com/htm/keys/intro-keys.htm
Nonetheless, a very interesting company.
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it ought to be more adjustable.
Supposedly the big thing about the Domino is all the end grain it give for glue.
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I know of at least two shops who need such a system as they use a lot of dowels. Maybe I can get them to buy it so I can borrow it. (wishful thinking, I know)
The system is a little rich for me, as I could never get it approved by the treasurer, but I can lust after it. There is a big project I am consulting on that this would be perfect for. I can include it in the proposal. Even if they don't go for it, I will look good.
Thanks for the info. I will file it and scheme on acquiring something like this for my own personal use. (The wish list is getting very long)
One potential problem would be the old imperial versus metric thing again. I am reasonably certain that the shops I know are all using imperial dowels.
This Hoffman company has some great, specialized tools. Way beyond the needs of the average home shop. But if you were doing certain types of production work, they would be very useful.
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Robatoy wrote:

V e rrrrrrr eee In ter rrrrressss ting ... but dowels?
You gonna brag to a customer that all your stuff is put together with dowels? I guess you could tell them you use "round loose tenon" mortise and tenon joints, noting that mortise and tenon joinery is an old tried and true, Traditional means of joinery, found in the finest of furniture.
On second thought - how many people shopping for "furniture" at IKEA would give a tinker's dam how the stuff is put together.
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I totally agree. the 'floating tenon' has more cachι. Besides, a choice between the Hoffman and the Domino is easy. The one thing I do like about the Hoffman, is the 32 mm spacing. THAT can be put to use in many nifty ways.

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This equipment is almost entirely from Germany and these guys appear to be nothing but distributors.
Dowels are still "widely" used in the furniture business due to the cost.
You are also right about what people think about concerning furniture construction.(They don't)
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"charlieb" wrote in message

Speaking of Ikea. This past week I saw an Ikea kiddie chair, belonging to the 3 year old twins next door, sitting on the curb on trash day with the seat broken out. (I guess Mom figured she's way behind on previous "can you fix this?" karma and didn't want to ask again, so just threw it away.)
Being sneaky and noticing they had just left, I snatched it from the trash, brought it into the shop, replaced the broken melamine seat with 1/2" baltic birch plywood, beveled the edges to keep splinters out of little bottoms, and a quick sanding and a couple of quick coats of spray can lacquer later, had the chair sitting on their front porch, as good as new, before they got back in 30 minutes.
When she knocked on the door a few minutes after that with a "Did you do this!?", I just grinned, blamed it on the tooth fairy, and told her the next time the nanny (200lb +) needed a footstool, to use that one. (I guessed right!)
It's a pretty sturdy chair now, even if it was originally "Ikea", and I guarantee the next time she makes those chocolate matzo cracker's for Passover, I'll have a plentiful supply.
Worth thanking Ikea for! :)
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"Swingman" wrote in message

Are you trying to make the rest of us look bad? :)
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"Lee Michaels" wrote in message

Naaah ... You would have done the same thing.
I guarantee there is not a wRec'er worthy of his salt who, with a shop full of tools not 50' away and plenty of scrap plywood, could have resisted that opportunity!
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"Swingman" wrote in message

I have reinforced many conventional book cases. I just slap a doorskin on the back and secure it with some brads. Unlike Norm, I actually use a hammer to drive the brads. And if the shelves are starting to droop I will make up some dividers of the correct height and jam them in there. These are secured with some long finishing nails.
I figure it is a lot less work than making a replacement book case out of real wood.
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<G> Good one. There's a TV show, I don't recall the name.. Junk-Something, and they pick up an interesting piece of garbage, make something out of it, and put it back where they found it. A big ol' headboard into a bar? (Only one I saw a bit of). Cool concept, which could be funny. I'm sure somebody here can shed more light on this.
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