Dual fences?

I like that explanation, and there's another factor to be considered. A kickback "away from you" is still a kickback. Wood flies.

To where?

Wall with window?

Priceless antique that's in the shop for repair?

Your brand new (and priceless) Harbor Freight router that's just been lovingly unwrapped and awaiting its first plunge?

Someone else in the shop who came in to announce supper?(This one may limit your ability to have children, even tho the kick back didn't hit YOU)

-- Tanus

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vertical plywood 'safety' shield you could swing into position..

Hold down, push fence, parallel fence, safety shield.

I can't think of kickback happening and if it possibly did occur, I cannot imagine that the board would hit anything but the shield.

Is your sparkling new HF router safe now?

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BoyntonStu

I'm not sure if you purposefully missed my point or you really believe that this is safe.

If it's the former, and you're just pulling my leg, consider it pulled.

If it's the latter, then I'm glad we don't work together.

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Tanus

Sat, Feb 2, 2008, 2:41pm snipped-for-privacy@doesthisblockpork.mindspring.com (Jim=A0Behning) doth sayeth: You now have two pieces of wood that you are trying to safely pass by the saw blade.

I've read, and re-read, that, and still can't figure out what you're tryping to say. You've got ONE piece of wood, with two fences or one, until the blade passes thru the last of the wood. If you're using a push block, either way, I see no problem. O a push stick. Either way, if the board is sufficiently long, it will tip up away from the blade. Ahhhh, you guys argue about it, I don't really care. If I felt it would be useful, I would have qualms about using two fences. But, I don't, so I don't., too many other options to choose from that I would prefer to use.

JOAT - who does not welcome thread question e-mails..

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J T

You want to be reaching across the blade?

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Father Haskell

Good!

Good! They call these "feather boards".

Not necessary with a sliding table, but big time necessary when ripping, unless your ripping with a taper sled.

If it's not touching the board, why is it there? When it DOES touch, it's all over.

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Bonehenge (B A R R Y)

Not with much force, unless it's a tiny offcut.

It's the "trap" that creates the traction on any decent sized part.

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Bonehenge (B A R R Y)

BINGO!

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Bonehenge (B A R R Y)

Lucky you. At least you knew what "sharp" was like.

It's all relative. I took shop starting in the 4th grade, mandatory until the 8th grade. I took 4 years of it in high school, where it was optional. Started using power tools, unsupervised, in th grade. The wools were demonstrated, and then we were expected to se them right, and not hurt ourselves. We listened, and no one sufferred injuries that a bandaid wouldn't fix. Except for the idoot jock that was horseplaying and shoved an arm thru the shp door window, cutting an artery - he survived. We learned woodworking, welding, some mechanics, drafting, forging, sheet metal work, metal lathe and milling machine, and even a big of electricity, and probably one or two things I don't recall just now. However, I graduated high school in 1958, age 17. Oh yes, attended schoo in two different small countryschools, in the same school distric, in rural southern Michigan. .

I was 22 years behind you but I remember being taught all that stuff. It's a lot of the reason that I'm a toolmaker today...I was taught how to love the actions needed and how to DO the actions...or at least how to fake them well enough to get the job done.

I still have the center punch that I made in the forge part and also the ashtray that was cast during the foundry part.

Could you imagine the hue and cry that would go up if parents found out that an ashtray was made WITH TAX DOLLARS??????

Mike

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The Davenport's

"Bonehenge (B A R R Y)" wrote

You need three

Might one supplement this excellent advice with the suggestion that using a short ripping fence, ie one that guides the wood no further than the gullets of the teeth, is also a good precaution against kickback.

Jeff

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Jeff Gorman

No.

You are standing on the teeth rising side of the table saw.

Your sled has a handle between you and the blade.

The sled has a stop and you cannot pull the sled off the table.

The hold down(s) eliminate the need for hands anywhere near the blade.

You pull the sled towards you.

Any flying wood goes away from you.

The sled could also have a backstop to trap anything flying its way.

How is it possible for anyone or anything to be hit?

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BoyntonStu

Design it and sell it them!

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asmurff

Rube Goldberg Tools

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B A R R Y

The front of the blade nips you. The heel pulls you in and shreds you.

Keep your hands away from the blade.

Birch ply has an excellent low traction surface if sanded to 220 and finished with two coats of wipe on poly. Workpieces are easily slid into place, and stay in place under hand pressure.

Reaching across the blade.

Don't force us to repost that bandsaw jpg.

The only thing to worry about being his is you. Stand to one side of the blade.

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Father Haskell

Reaching across the blade.

Again, no.

when you are ripping a piece of 2' x 8' plywood and it is half through.

Some times you walk around to the other side of the saw and you pull the sheet through.

Are you then reaching across the blade?

This is what I am attmpting to describe.

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BoyntonStu

4' deep outfeed table.

You need someone to show you how to use a tablesaw.

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Father Haskell

you are BEGGING for a kickback. The wood will not travel evenly between the fences, hang up, hit the blade, rattle around before it comes out at you. Hene the advice, NEVER us a fence and miter block at the same time.

make a crosscut sled - you'll be much happier.

shelly

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sheldon.mandel

The fence(s) are ON the crosscut sled!

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BoyntonStu

You don't need *anything* to prevent kickback on a crosscut sled. It's not an issue at all.

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B A R R Y

Please explain why " It's not an issue at all."

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BoyntonStu

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