eI must be obsessing on this clamp thing...sorry.
For those that might be interested, I called Bessey today (actually
their New York distributor) to ask about the "jig and fixture" clamp.
First they said few people carry it because it's such a niche market
but any could order it...
Second, she said suggested retail was between $120 and $140. Ouch.
That's getting close to the cost of a new router, or a new hand plane!
They don't sell pads to prevent wood bruising. Also, it is probably
overkill as a hold down clamp - over 200 pounds of pressure possible.
There is a Jorgenson competitor but after I account for the 3 inch
thickness of my bench, there's only 1.5 inches left. Bummer.
firstname.lastname@example.org (Never Enough Money) wrote in message
Doh! I get it now, "HF" for "Harbor Freight" -- I was thinking it was
a style of clamp. I was dreaming up things like "Handy Fastener" or
"Heavy Fastener" or "Hands Free" (Hah!).....
email@example.com wrote in message
firstname.lastname@example.org wrote in message
I don't doubt that. I had two or three of them at one time (the HF
version), and they worked OK for a few projects, but always felt a bit
flimsy, so I migrated to pipe clamps and have been satisfied with them
ever since. For "budget" clamps, the pipe is mightier than than the
This was maybe a month ago, and suspect I only checked at the IMSI site for
their prices, and they don't offer that. Don't have the FWW handy, but seem to
recall they mentioned multiple CDs, and my impression is that only the
Introduction CD comes with that Yahoo store offer.
If anybody has this, I'd be interested in how far that one training CD takes
Guess I should have known better than to just check the manufacturer for a
On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 12:02:23 -0700, Larry Jaques
For what its worth - Half of my Pipe Clamps are Pony's, the other half are
Harbor Freight. Pony's are nice, but I bought Just as many HF's for 1/3rd
Besides - I grab my "K" Bodies anytime I need to do a critical glue up
On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 17:55:57 -0400, "Gregory Paolini"
The HF pipe clamps aren't much worse than the Pony crap.
I thought I had bought the HF clamps until I looked closely
one day and found a PONY on the end of one. I have a feeling
that they're all made in the same factory in China anyway. ;)
What glueup is ever non-critical?
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Hi - I figured I should respond to this post - I might have a little
intimate knowledge of the subject.
I'll give you a little back ground here - The article was actually written
in January and February of '04. At the time, the software reviewed was the
latest version, and the prices were all correct. Between the time I
reviewed the software, and the article was actually printed, DesignCAD was
fully purchased by IMSI software, and a newer version of designCAD was
released: Version 15. Apparently Version 15 can still be purchased for $99,
but only comes with 1 training CD.
In all honesty, I don't believe that DesignCAD or IMSI knew how I evaluated
either of their software products until the Magazine hit the News Stands -
Never the Less, I wish they still kept the pricing the same.
I'm not Familiar at all with Version 15 of their software, but what I can
say is if Version 15 is anything like 14, then it's still a decent buy -
Hope this answers some questions - Thanks for reading!
Gregory Paolini - Roycroft Renaissance Artisan
Handcrafted Custom Furniture & Cabinetry
Based on the FWW article, I downloaded the trial version of this program;
DesignCAD 3D Max 15. I have absolutely no knowledge of CAD. When I found
that the help was no help at all, I contacted the company. They tried to
sell me the "Platinum version" but provided a link for free online
tutorials. Unfotunately, the tutorials were set up for version 14, so they
didn't work quite right for the newer version and even then, there was no
explanation of how everything worked. I didn't buy the program although if
I do buy it later, I'll likely spring for the platinum version so that I can
actually learn what all the included functions mean and do.
I agree, Ed. It's really a shame they didn't do some work on their help
system. After giving up on them with the same experience as you, I brought up
another CAD program I haven't used for years. With just their normal help
menus I was productive inside an hour.
Before going for their platinum version, it might be good to hear from a few
people on how far that tutorial actually takes you, since they also sell more
advanced ones and, if you end up needing them, the price goes up a bit.
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