Deck Project - Concrete

Exactly!

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Leon
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I have had fertilizer do that and it is not concrete. I seriousely doubt that concrete that has set up from humidity or moisture in the soil is going to be a correct cure or have any strength.

Reply to
Leon

I s e e that :->>>

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a truck... that's a "ute".

And a Holden(!!) ute at that..bchlek! So I have to agree with your 'naming'

Here is the Aussie shiela of like genre.

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First, it's smaller than a REAL truck (it's an S10).

I uploaded the Aussie version of "small truck". From: George Watson Newsgroups: alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking Subject: Not a Ute - Tojo2010_hunterV.JPG

On my sixth.. these are a reliable workhorse nary requiring a spanner... until you hit something. Smash 'em..?.. cash 'em is the best action. The Japs need the scrapmetal.

Yeh, "beetle green".. like as in Shellac. Just to keep the post topical, like

Me. I am tolerant of such idiosyncrasies in women. This, as, like Eskimos, they are warm where covered with fur. I know where me sausage gets 'grilled' best... mheh george

Reply to
George Watson

Concrete is ery porous. The second time it got wet, the next layer would be wet and set. Repeat a dozen times and the whole thing is set. My question would be "How well does each layer stick to the other?"

-- Progress is the product of human agency. Things get better because we make them better. Things go wrong when we get too comfortable, when we fail to take risks or seize opportunities. -- Susan Rice

Reply to
Larry Jaques

Concrete "is" very porous however soil can be much more porous. If the surrounding soil is more porous the water is going to go to the soil vs. concrete. Add to that the thicker the concrete the more the water has to penetrate to get to the uncured section. It is important that the concrete next to the post be cured, If it takes 4 or 5 rains to cure everything you have movement from the fence post that will open the hole that the post is in and then what is the point of using concrete at all.

Reply to
Leon

Precisely. But concrete is like a sponge. It holds water and transfers it to the next particle as long as there is enough to pass on.

I most certainly wasn't espousing the "no water" method. Gawd! But I was belaying the thought that the concrete next to the post would never get water. It would, after a few good rains, lawns being watered, deck washings, etc.

I've never done a dry pour, either, but a fence would be the place to try that if anything. Never a deck footing!

-- Progress is the product of human agency. Things get better because we make them better. Things go wrong when we get too comfortable, when we fail to take risks or seize opportunities. -- Susan Rice

Reply to
Larry Jaques

I have a feeling the Army Corps of Engineers would never build a dam using anything but fully mixed concrete. I would never feel comfortable that concrete (in any context) would cure completely and with full strength unless it were mixed thoroughly with water from the outset.

Reply to
Steve Turner

Incorrect. What happens instead is that you get hardened granules that don't stick to each other, and the entire thing is a grainy mess.

Reply to
Doug Miller

We wouldn't want crispy layer of concrete inside our deck post supports. The strength might not be good enough o hold back the ground pressing against it.

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Reply to
m II

Damns are typically "one pour". It never stops for concrete integrity. Some have cooling pipes poured into the structure to slow the curing down to permit this by allowing more time to build.

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Reply to
m II

ummmm,, Larry?

/tap

I say, Larry.. I do believe you are telling a porkie!.. no?

Post the filter string you are using in: ^^^^^X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 6.00/32.1186 trialware

.. for any poster.

Ok.. Ok.. make it "post any string you have any clue on". I will even accept old twisted Mary J strands (hemp) as suitable proof you have a clue what _any_ "string" represents, in real form. [pffffffft]

... an' a poor "social engineer": you are too Larry. tip? When you are tempted to post a lie you cannot back up, don't.. m'kay

Why? Your way is to split the group into two. That happens first.

The next thing is to get the two groups "fired up".

That, when fully fed, by the likes of josepi/bengi/eric/'mII' results in a flame war not too many groups have survived. Ask josepi.. he knows that strategy well.

jes saying... I reckon you are a class d*****ad, Larry. You going to build on that score? george

Reply to
George Watson

Yeh? You got any news I aint heard just yesterday?

Your TB is busted? You do have a search engine loaded? No? Well never mind. Use the URL to get yourself some education, Bud.

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George Watson

Steve Turner wrote in news:j06nhm$l2v$ snipped-for-privacy@dont-email.me:

Water's practically free, concrete costs the same per bag whether you add it or not, so might as well spend the extra time and mix in the water and be sure it's done. Time spent not repairing your fence can be spent breaking other things.

Puckdropper

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Puckdropper

That is what I have witnessed after pulling a post out of supposed cured concrete.

Reply to
Leon

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this make your post spam, spam, spam? I don't think it does. I think there are web sites that cull posts from newsgroups and post it on their own site. What do you think?

Phil

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We expect a report on the wonders and lies of WD-68? here every month or so for the last ten years, anyway.

Reply to
Eric

Congratulations, you watch the History Channel.

Reply to
-MIKE-

my WD-40 post was spam, spam, spam

Well, In my defense I did NOT reply so until after 1. reading another such assertion on this list and, then 2. Googling a phrase from the post and finding a dozen copies posted on the same day.

"If it walks, like a duck," they say . . .

So, if the WD-40 cheering is, indeed, proper fodder for this list . . .

And, I did fail to ad "OT" to my subject line - though I doubt it would have mad a great difference in the responses. So, I stand guilty as charged.

BTW, what was the charge?

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Gooey

my WD-40 post was spam, spam, spam

Well, In my defense I did NOT reply so until after 1. reading another such assertion on this list and, then 2. Googling a phrase from the post and finding a dozen copies posted on the same day.

"If it walks, like a duck," they say . . .

So, if the WD-40 cheering is, indeed, proper fodder for this list . . .

And, I did fail to ad "OT" to my subject line - though I doubt it would have mad a great difference in the responses. So, I stand guilty as charged.

BTW, what was the charge?

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Reply to
Eric

.... and didn't pay attention to that neither.

The reason Josepi/Bengi/'mII'/Eric gives is not the case and likely is "what he heard" just as "what he heard" is why he is is how he is today. The guy has never done more than second string labour toil, probably in "sales", given the volumes of BS coming from that corner.. ergo.. he watches not does. Inventive construction is beyond his horizon. The guy who points and exclaims. "Farrkk would you look at that!".

Pouring(?) concrete "cold" is done for structural engineering outcomes and in fact is topical for as it has to do with formwork. Formwork made from sheet ply.. I aint sure what you guys know that stuff by. This stuff "sounds like" the good gear.

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jes saying - as you have - the edjut is FOS as per usual. george

Reply to
George Watson

wtf..!! Your looking at one guy and shouting over his shoulder to ANOTHER..! You farkin' weird.. or wot!!

/scratches arse

.. yeh "Gooey is GOOFY" fits well :-D

Found your niche yet again, Josepi/Bengi/'mII'.

There it is in your face.. the post/s you attract are from Gugglers. I could not put out any better a descriptor of your incompetence than you always do.. but right now you are having a "special moment" with Goofy. So I leave you tuit. george

Reply to
George Watson

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