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refurbishing a 1973 used Craftsman RAS, 113.29461, Sears wants $65 for the set of carriage bearings, and $12.50 each for table clamps. Seems like a lot to me. Also would like a manual. Any better sources than Parts Direct? Email welcome, thanks.
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RM MS wrote:

They got the parts, you want the parts.
A new Searz RAS runs about $650. Comes with the manual and all the parts - I like mine (2 years old). You make the choice - $650 or $90 or cruise the net. No matter the choice, some/lots of assembly/setup required.
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"They got the parts, you want the parts. A new Searz RAS runs about $650. Comes with the manual and all the parts - I like mine (2 years old). You make the choice - $650 or $90 or cruise the net. No matter the choice, some/lots of assembly/setup required."
Thank you for your less than considerate and completely un-informative reply. I have had a 1960's RAS in my home shop for many years, and am a professional woodworker as my sole livelihood (and a very fruitful one) since 1980, daily using power tools that make yours look like kids' toys. I am cleaning up the 70's saw as a gift for my retired father. The simple question, again, was: is anybody aware of a cheaper source of parts?
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On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 13:15:52 -0500, snipped-for-privacy@webtv.net (RM MS) wrote:

What is it about webtv that brings out the crankiness in posters?
"...using power tools that make yours look like kids' toys..." certainly doesn't seem any more considerate or informative than the one you complained about. Makes me glad I didn't respond, and I have that same saw, new since '72.
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"Makes me glad I didn't respond . . "
But sir, you did.
"You make the choice - $650 or $90 or cruise the net. No matter the choice, some/lots of assembly/setup required."
I already did, and wasn't asking for your risk assessment, just a set of bearings, remember?
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On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 14:03:15 -0500, snipped-for-privacy@webtv.net (RM MS) wrote:

That which is below your comment wasn't me. The "makes me glad..." was contained in my first, and to that point, only post and it merely raised the question of crankiness among webtv'ers and expressed my relief at not having addressed your original quandry. Both conditions still obtain. This clarification now concludes any interpretation of my participation in this thread.
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Bla, bla bla, thank you Professor Irwin Corey for that elegant clarification.
BTW, anybody found them bearings for me yet?
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"That which is below your comment wasn't me."
______No, it was me, pay attention.___________And, by the way, you are right, dammit, webtv DOES seem to draw out the crabbiness of al you f_ckers, what's up w/that?
The "makes me glad..." was contained in my first, and to that point, only post and it merely raised the question of crankiness among webtv'ers and expressed my relief at not having addressed your original quandry. Both conditions still obtain. This clarification now concludes any interpretation of my participation in this thread."
Bla, bla bla, thank you Professor Irwin Corey for that elegant clarification.
BTW, anybody found them bearings for me yet?
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RM MS wrote:

Well, I thought that pointing out that $90 vs $650 would put things in perspective, but maybe if you had given some idea of you upper limit you're willing to spend on your retired father...
As for me, it wouldn't bother me at all to pay $90 in parts to restore an otherwise good '70's RAS, or a whole lot more on a gift for my father (which I did many times when he was alive as he made it to 89).
As far as RAS usage, I also have had several, the first in 1971, and lately a 2004 Craftsman as all the smoke leaked out of the '71 PowrCraft. Being retired myself, I've upgraded to a good tablesaw and added a jointer and planer in the last few years.
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pirate bob wrote:

Fuck you, asshole.
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RM MS wrote:

You can try taking the bearings to a local bearing supply store to see if they match a standard part or not. Look in your local yellow pages for bearings. The clamps are probably a custom part. Maybe with a torch and some metal you could make your own?
A year or so ago I added a portable torch and a wire feed welder to my tool set and now I wonder how I got by for so long without being able to do basic metalworking.
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Thanks, John, I agree about the clamps, After sleepng on it, I came up with a simple design to make them very smply myself. Will look into the bearing shop option, thanks.
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Clamps were made last night in about a half-hour from 3/4" hex stock and long 1/4" flathed screws, some drilling and tapping,. Works perfectly, kept $ 26 +shipping in my pocket
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RM MS wrote:

Did you have everything in stock, or did you have to go get any of the materials?
If you had it all, nice job! I never do, and I definitely don't have kex stock, so I need to count the time and other expenses to go get the stuff. <G>
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"Did you have everything in stock, or did you have to go get any of the materials? If you had it all, nice job! I never do, and I definitely don't have kex stock, so I need to count the time and other expenses to go get the stuff. <G>"
Yes, all materials were readily available, which def. cuts down the aggravation factor. Bob
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John Horner wrote:

Just for general reference, this is a carriage bearing for a Craftsman RAS: http://www.flickr.com/photos/39383723@N00/sets/72157603248463836 /
Note the flange, into which the bearing proper is pressed. The bearing itself one can probably find off the shelf somewhere, but the flange would be unique to the saw. If you've got a press and the right mandrels then swapping the bearings shouldn't be a problem, if not, if you have to pay someone to do it, then I'm not sure you end up much ahead by getting the bearings alone.
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"Note the flange . . ."
You are correct, and although I have the press, etc., turns out one of the flanges is split, so we'l buy the whole kit with new axles, eccentrics, related. Thanks for the input- Bob
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Hey RM MS, This suggestion will not get you the bearings but if I recall properly you get a new table and clamps from Emerson Tool Company if your saw is on the list of Craftsman Radial Arm Saws involved in the "recall" program. I took advantage of it and got the stuff including a very nice blade guard. I deleted the original link but I just did a search for "radial arm saw recall and got this website. See if it will help you get the clamps. Marc
http://www.radialarmsawrecall.com/faq.asp
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Any good bearing house should have the bearings, usually less than $5 each. Doing your own table clamps might require welding or tapping and some ingenuity.
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Dan says "Any good bearing house should have the bearings, usually less than $5 each. Doing your own table clamps might require welding or tapping and some ingenuity." Thanks, Dan. I see in the books that the bearings have generic #'s which are fairly common. I already made the table clamps, see post below in group--Bob
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