On Tue, 07 Jun 2016 22:54:35 -0500, Martin Eastburn wrote:
See the last page or so.
Since I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion that you're trolling, I won't
be responding to this thread any more. If you're not trolling, and live
in a universe where "set" means what you say it means, and not what the
rest of the universe says it means, more power to you.
When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and
carrying a cross.
Trolling - see if you have 20+ years in the group I suspect I have more.
Now look at Cut 10 figure 23 rip teeth. Notice the non-diamond shape
and the slight bend. That isn't set to my thinking - I quote from the
article by Isaac Smith:
"Set varies from none in saws that are heavily taper ground and used in
dry hardwoods, to a hundredth of an inch or more in coarse saws used in
I don't cut much green wood with a hand saw. Double Buck yes. Hardwoods
and dry has "None to a hundred of an inch" None for hardwoods and
hundred of an inch for green wood.
Thanks for the facts that you don't seem to read. Look below figure 24.
And then the example figure 25.
None means ZERO(0).
The pictures have to show something to show the measurement area.
On 6/8/2016 5:20 PM, Larry Blanchard wrote:
On Thu, 9 Jun 2016 00:10:25 -0500, Martin Eastburn
Figure 24 quite clearly shows set in a ripsaw in the link below, i
have already provided details of manuals showing set in ripsaws , if
you look on the disstons archives it quite clearly shows ripsaws
Disstons produced one ripsaw for a very short time designed to cut
dry hardwood without set, it was discontinued, although it was an
excellent saw tradesmen found by putting a set on it aactually
performed far better.
Heavily taper ground rip saws although experimented with never
really found favour , they where in general heavier gauge steel to
facilitate the heavy taper needed to accommodate free movement
through the timber, couldn't cope well with resin or sap and still
had issues with binding, hence the reason Disstons dropped the 120
from its line, its use unless set was extremely limited.
Its quite clear your assertion that ripsaws were not set is wrong
conformed by your own evidence.
No one has denied that some manufacturers experimented with no set
ripsaws , however the end result was they were usually discontinued
after a very short time because of the limited use.
You are looking at green or almost green pine. That needs some set.
If you are cutting hardwood, walnut, Oak, etc NONE is the word in the
sentence. See the QUOTE - that is letter to letter from Isaac Smith.
On 6/9/2016 2:01 AM, steve robinson wrote:
I haven't seen a ripsaw in a hardware store in 40 years.
I suppose you could buy one on line. But having a ground saw isn't
that uncommon. They do that on table saw blades and other products.
On 6/10/2016 3:37 AM, steve robinson wrote:
Eat your words.
The taper ground blade on this 26" Lynx rip handsaw provides
friction-free cutting, and the hollowing of the back reduces weight,
improving balance and letting the saw tip start a cut in confined areas.
Each Lynx saw is individually produced by a craftsman who ensures that
you get a reliable tool that holds a sharp cutting edge, and will not
fail under constant hard use. Setting and grinding of the teeth is done
by hand so that proper tooth geometry is maintained for the best cutting
action. Handles are carefully crafted and fitted to blades with solid
brass mounting bolts.
- See more at:
On 6/11/2016 5:22 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
But it _still_ has SET--
"Teeth precisely set and sharpened to ensure the best possible cut - See
I have one of those and a Sandvik rip saw... I also have a Lynx 12 pt cross
cut, Disten 8 pt crosscut and a 12 pt Sandvik cross cut. Bought them all
new... have L-N dovetail, L-N cross cut back saw, and an L-N tenon saw also.
They all work fine...
When the Albany NY Woodcraft closed I picked up the Lynx saws on "final
days" clearance. This after going there looking for an 1/8" chisel after
teaching a dovetailing class for NWA... I got all three items for $140
including tax. Seemed like a good deal at the time. ;~)
The Document and I agree. It states that "SET" is from ZERO (0) inches
to approximately 1/10" of offset. Zero set is for very hard wood.
The ground blade allows slippage. In soft woods, sticky woods with sap -
use 1/10" and that means +/- .1" so the kerf is blade width to way out
there near a 1/4"! .2 + width of the blade.
It says you have to set the set yourself by hand. It depends on the work
intended for the saw.
One could have full set and waste a lot of high quality and expensive
wood or have it as small as possible. This saw has a taper ground blade
which allows for zero or almost zero for exotic wood.
On 6/13/2016 3:05 AM, steve robinson wrote:
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