: Greg G. said:
: Reminds me of freaking New Jersey, where if you call from Mullica Hill
: to Cherry Hill (less than 15 miles and in-state) for 55 minutes,
: you'll get a bill for $250.
That's roughly $4.50 per minute. I can call central Mongolia for
less than that! You need to switch phone carriers.
I'm in southern AZ, and can call anywhere in the US or Canada for
under 5 cents a minute.
-- Andy Barss
Oh, believe me - I don't live in New Jersey - the Garden State.
I spent a year there in 2000. The greenish-blue well water and vast
multitudes of scam-artists, and deer ticks had me racing back to the
Southern Appalachians. <g>
As for the phones - I believe one company held a monopoly on the land
lines there... We're talking calls _within_ the state, out of state
was different - the Feds get involved...
We have a Verizon set up for $59 a month that allows unlimited calling
within the U.S. and Canada. No time limits, not set times, zip, nada,
zilch. It sounds a bit high at first, but even at nickel a word, you
can run up some major charges when your wife calls her parents or
siblinigs and yaks for a couple, three hours, three or four times a
week (among the joys of aging parents is keeping track of their well
being from several hundred miles away).
On 12/1/2005 5:40 AM Charlie Self mumbled something about the following:
I switched to VoIP (Sunrocket) over my high speed cable. $200 a year
(that's like $16.67 a month), unlimited calling US and Canada. There is
the issue of having no phone if the internet is out, but I have a cell
phone for those few times when that happens.
On my 21st birthday, I called home (Westchester County, in New York) from
Kaneohe Bay, Hawaii. Cost of a 20 minute call was about $115. A long damned
time ago, and at that time I was making, if memory serves, about $124 a
month, net. Lance corporal, USMC. Big boost the next year, going to E4 and
over 3. Up to $170 a month.
Charlie you are younger then me.... I still remember my first check
from the US Army... $18.46 cents...NET ...and 16 bucks of that was
traveling pay from Ft Bragg to Walter Reed... That check I really
should have not cashed ..I should have had it framed and hung it on my
Prices are relative,,, My home cost less then $25,000 when I
purchased it in 1965 ...When my dad died a few years ago I discovered
he paid either $1160 or $1610 for my entire 1st year in college when I
was going thru his things... even laughed at his comment that I better
cut my beer consumption because he was going broke "supporting" me...
My first job in High School was at a burger joint... we sold them fro
15 cents each..or 7 for a dollar... My 1951 V8 Hot Rod drank gas that
cost me 19 cents a gallon... and ran on "May Pop" brand tires ..like
one just may pop... at any time...I think I averaged 2-3 flat tires a
Now back to the original posters comments... I have no idea if I can
afford to continue buying wood... Before I retired I stock piled a
lifetime supply of Walnut, Cherry and Poplar...(what A laugh...I must
have died a few years ago because it only took about 5 years before I
had to float a loan to buy a small supply to make my Daughters dinning
room set...(Table & Hutch,...no darn chairs...) ..
Fricken scary ...what EVERYTHING costs now...
My "Real Estate" Taxes per year today .. are greater then what I paid
in 1965 for my mortgage (P&I and taxes)... My first "new" car was a
1965 Corvette 396 BB purchased in 1966 for $4,700 ..today just the
knock off wheels for that car are worth that much...
Honestly as much as I bitch about what I have to pay for lumber I
really feel sorry for my grandchildren and what they have to pay for a
little, but nice, townhouse with a 200 sq foot back yard.....even the
dog can not get any exercise in that small yard...
Off my soap box...
The one check I will not have to write will be to the Funeral Home...
what a good though that is... Maybe I should run out and buy some pine
for a "box" today.... who knows what the wife will have to pay per Bf
of that crap in a few years...
Hell, I had to be younger than somebody! That was in 1959, for anyone who
My first semester's tuition at Albany State (now the great and pretentious
University at Albany)
was 200 bucks, IIRC. and $400 for a semester in the dorms, with meals. One
semester and I went out, against the rules, and got my own apartment. It was
kill a college kid.
My niece, her husband and daughter came down from LI a few weeks ago, and we
cabbages, kings, RE taxes and things. First, they are paying approximately
three times the
assessed value of my home for a similar sized place (though nicer) on Long
Island. They are also
paying approximately 16 times what I am paying in RE and school taxes. Their
tax bill is on the
order of $167 per MONTH more than I pay for a year. I was born and raised in
Westchester County, so
high RE taxes come as no surprise, but that's asinine.
Our grandchildren, with minor exceptions, will scrape by. Our great
grandchildren will not. We--and this is
all inclusive--have gobbled their resources and their money. It has nothing
to do with SS, but with our allowing
idiot politicians over the past 65 years to piss away money at a rate that
would scare anyone with half a brain. We
make jokes about cost overruns and pork, and nothing EVER gets done about
it. The national debt mounts, and
we slither along--and that's how the kids will probably view us. As a bunch
of thieving snakes.
Yeah, well...if they waste a box on me, I'll come back and haunt 'em.
Remember the jump when I sewed on E-3. I was then making $ 22 per
fortnightly payday. Felt so good about it that I went out and got
Stockboy at 0.50 / hour, but you could get a gallon for between 11 and 17
cents, _and_ a set of glasses for a fill up. The MGA cost me 1500 at three
My daughter married a guy whose family had a few forties of timber, so when
we made the cabinets for his NASCAR memorabilia, he supplied his own black
ash. Same for all the replacement oak moldings - red oak from the "camp."
The bed will be in cherry, but I'll have to supply anything over 4/4,
because that's all they have in the barn.
Since I mostly turn firewood, my flat stock should hold out a few more
Here's a website calculator I get a kick out of plugging numbers into:
It's a Fed Resv Bank calculator for what the dollar amount in some year
would equal in another year.
That $4700 Corvette would be just shy of $30,000 today. But then
consider how much more by way of amenities and safety the C-5 or C-6 has
over that '65.
Some things are pretty much as they should be with respect to inflation.
Other things like houses and cars don't translate as easily since
there're other factors that contribute to today's prices above the cost
of building a similar one today.
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