Come as a powder, mix with water and heat and you've got something that if
you don't inspect it too closely bears a slight resemblance to scrambled
eggs. Helps to add lots of salt and pepper and Tabasco. Doesn't help
_much_ mind you. Check backpacking shops if you want to give them a try
(dried chicken eggs that is--haven't ever seen dried ostrich eggs at a
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distinctive rich flavor all their own.
I guess you don't hunt rabbit, huh?
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I respectfully disagree. Tom proved his professionalism a long time
ago, and if he chooses now to retire to the role of storyteller and
elder here on the wreck I not only support but encourage him. We need
more elders who are prepared to judge and comment on the foolishness
they see through the lens of their life's learning.
A well-formed respectful question will, in my experience, ALWAYS get a
good response in this forum.
Rudeness, stupidity (as opposed to ignorance or lack of knowledge), or
provocation, OTOH, will get what it deserves... sarcasm, ridicule, even
shunning depending on the severity of the offense. Lord knows I've
(deservedly) been on the receiving end of same from time to time.
Everyone who frequents the wreck does so because they CHOOSE to. Nobody
is under any obligation here.
6/23/04 -Conference Table Finish
6/17/04-Long Story - Short Question
6/13/04-Bit The Bullet Today
6/10/04 -Workbench Material Choice
6/7/04- W+H, was Boxes a la Tom Watson
6/3/04- Oak Table Restoration Refinishing
6/1/04- Solid Surface Supplier
A review of my posts substantiates that you are full of crap.
Thomas J.Watson - Cabinetmaker (ret.)
tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)
I have, although not to put too fine a point on it, I didn't count all
his posts back through May & June to compare OT etc. However, this was
during the height of the *troll wars*, and I can cut Tom some slack on that,
because He Who Shall Remain Unnamed was being a real PITA, and has been in
my killfile under many different guises for some time.
Tom has offered a lot of good advice in my time here on the wRECk, and I
fully expect him to offer more.
It did surprise me to see you jump in with the response you did to Tom's OP,
you seemed a little more hostile than I normally think of you as being.
To finish, do you know what paragraph I was referring to?
The first myth of management is that management exists.
When his post starts out with "Some chucklehead complained a while back
...." in reference to my post - that tends to piss one off. It appears that
any opinion that differs from his is wrong. My comment was a generalization
that more posts were being made about the troll than about woodworking. If
you go back and read some of those, he was purposely baiting the individual
and taunting him. He could have simply filtered him out (as everyone was
advocating) or put him in his killfile. No... he wanted to make his case
and prove a point - whatever that may have been.
Talk of shunning etc. with a whole list of followers began ... real kids
stuff. I swear, if Tom ever makes an abrupt stop - there will be a lot of
brown noses all over the rec....
I'm NOT condoning what Dave did and as you'll recall, I was at the end of
his ugly stick several times. But I think the man has some problems and
simply filtering him rather than publicly taunting and aggravating the
situation even more was not a good reaction. That "ganging up" is what set
me off. Tom couldn't fight his own battle or handle the situation so in
typical fashion - he called in the rest of the gang to do the deed for him -
the defacto ring leader in this instance.
Dave was being a PITA but I still don't believe he was the troll some were
making him out to be. Dave made some honest and sincere posts and did his
best to help someone when he could. He obviously couldn't handle criticism
well and would retaliate -- and we all saw the results of that.
It is that gangland mentality that Tom perpetuated and the reliance on his
following of soldiers to rid the rec of a troll... Wrong way of doing it...
So let me tell you a story now of how even a bigger nuisance was convinced
not to bother the rec recently.
Remember the vulgar and vile posts we were getting via the remailer
service - Dizum? Don't see him anymore do you.. No, he didn't get tired
and wander away all on his own. It was a combined effort and since I don't
have the individuals permission to use his name, I'll just call him "the
good guy from Oz". He helped compile a listing of the posts and forwarded
them to me. Along with those 75 posts, plus some emails and phone calls to
the Attorney Generals Office and to Dizum - the problem was solved. It may
be a temporary fix but it was done quietly, in the background and it was
expedient. That individual made BAD look good in comparison but the fact
is, there are ways of dealing with problems when they get to the stage this
one had gotten to and it doesn't take a gangland mentality to do it either.
I see now that Tom is back to offering some good advice - again. It may be
that he realized he was doing more complaining than helping. Yes, he's a
good writer and a story teller - no argument. But he used that talent to
denigrate others and to solicit them to follow his actions.
If the group really has adopted his attitude and support his actions (and I
don't think the majority have), then this place has gone to hell and I'll
leave. I don't want to have any ass kicking contests with Tom or anyone
else but when he starts with the name calling you can damn well bet he's
going to get a rebuttal and a dressing down he deserves.
And to answer your last question - no I do not know the paragraph you're
specifically what I did to upset you. :) If you didn't
deserve it, I apologize and make no excuses. In any event,
you have hit quite a few "nails" on the "head" with your
observation about TW and his cronies who shall always be
immortalized as the "miscreants" in my view. I never saw a
newsgroup with such a group of adolescent older men who
crave so much support from their peers. They go to any
length to fit in, regardless of how foolish they appear.
Witness TW's endless attacks on me earlier this year. If I
was the complaining type, I would have contacted his ISP.
My ISP received complaints from some bozos here but since
I'm the paying customer, the ISP chalked it up to the
typical nonsense of tattletales on the net and disregarded
the complaints. I thought it had to be the work of someone
so pathetic that I actually felt sorry for them! Reminded me
of a whining little brat going up to a teacher at recess to
complain that "Johnny hit me!". Gimmie a break!
Hey! When the brain(?) gets as old and rusty as mine, it takes a lot of
power & time to get it cranked up, the grease thinned out enough that the
belts stop slipping and burning! Have a little sensitivity here!
The law of intelligent tinkering: save all the parts.
No Tom, I don't think so. Like you, I just did a search for your posts on
Google and your off-topic posts far exceed the woodworking related posts -
22 to 8 for June alone.
In May you made 91 posts - of those only 6 were on-topic. My original post
was made on 2 June and with the 91 to 6 ratio, I'd say my statement was
correct and you sir - are the one full of crap.
I've been around here a long time also Tom and you are the one that usually
takes an on-topic post, off-topic and for whatever reason, thinks that this
ng is for the benefit of Tom Watson's ego building and story telling. It's
getting a bit tiresome and believe it or not Tom, somebody didn't leave you
So now we've gone from the two that you claimed previously to eight?
I can only hope that your woodworking tolerances don't vary by four
Thomas J.Watson - Cabinetmaker (ret.)
tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)
Nice return Tom. I did a local search (using Outlook) which at the time
showed only the two.
Today, I did a Google search (since you brought this up and decided to toss
some dirt) and it showed 22 off-topic and 8 on-topic posts for June. May
was the month I was referencing in the OP and you made 91 off-topic or
otherwise self-serving posts to 6 on-topic posts where you actually answered
a question for someone.
As I said at the beginning of June, it was a draw on who to put in the
killfile - you, BAD or both. You're really no better than he was when it
comes to distorting facts or belittling someone.
And I can assure you that my woodworking tolerances are accurate.
If you're going to killfile him, do it and move on. If not, shut up
about it. Of the two of you I'd rather read Tom's off-topic blather
than your off-topic blather about his off-topic blather. What I really
do is read the threads that seem interesting and ignore the rest. You
should try it. If it all upsets you that much try this, stop reading
the group. That way you won't be bothered by Tom's posts and we won't
be bothered by you.
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