CAD for simple 3-D metal & wood projects?

I looked at their promotional videos. I didn't see anything showing off its abilities to make numerically driven models. It looks like it may be okay for cabinet work, but what about something like making the scroll on a violin?

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ROTFLMAO

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Swingman

Should not be a problem. Actually I just down loaded one from the 3D warehouse, rather the whole violin.

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Leon

Did you mean 1/8th of an inch, or 1/80th of an inch? The former is reasonable, the later, not so much.

to the nearest 32nd of an inch. Hmm ...

Why not? What is so fantastic about 1/64th of an inch?

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pyotr filipivich

Same goes for the AK-47.

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pyotr filipivich

It is one of those spirals, that each improvement in one area, eventually chases around until you are back where you were, wishing you had a "better" one of "these" to take advantage of the new and improved other thing. The invention of "tool steel", then tungsten carbide, then ceramics, all let more material be removed per pass, but after a while, the machines are too slow, so you need faster machines (meaning bearing, among other things) and more rigid machines to keep the cutting edge where you want / need / expect it, and then "better" measuring devices in order to tell the difference, and so on and so forth.

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"Michael A. Terrell" on Mon, 25 Nov 2013

01:12:21 -0500 typed >>

He's lucky he had sticks. All we had were the rocks and sand. Rock/no rock. that's all we had.

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Gunner Asch on Sun, 24 Nov 2013 23:06:41 -0800 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:

Company I was at for a while, one of the guys pointed at a part, sitting on the floor. It was right at the minimum of the +/- tolerance. As this was a part which would be under a lot of pressure on a ship at sea, the company and the customer were going round and round as to whether or not it met the spec. Good news: they weren't going to take it out of Jim's pay, as it was twice what he made a year.

Probably over in the hard metal's side of the house. But then again, I was just knocking out Aluminum stuff in a high speed production shop.

RCH - Real Cherry Hardwood?

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"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" on Mon, 25 Nov

2013 11:49:47 -0600 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:

As the watchmaker's apprentice said when seeing a 1/4-28 tap "My God, I didn't know they made them that big!"

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"Leon" wrote

Far be it for me to criticize you Leon (you do good work) but I just can not visualize you in a Camry. ;)

But your point is well taken.

Reminds me of a job I did years ago. I was working with corporate publications and was hired to figure out the best way to send out publications to a select group that needed updates on a semiregular basis. I checked out several types of binding and distribution. My conclusion? 3 ring binders! I got them in contact with a source to make them up some binders and dividers.. And it was a success. They just copied the material on 3 hole sheets and sent it out. Simple. And better than any other alternative. Simple trumps complicated crap every time. Particularly if it gets the job done quick and easily.

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Richard

Nothing ... totally opposite of "fantastic".

In short, errors in precision, no matter how small, are cumulative and effect how things join, and whether or not they maintain a desired property, like parallel.

A 1/64" gap in a joint, or between boards in a panel, is highly visible.

Any piece where an angle, or worse, a compound angle, is the norm (chairs, bow front tables, splayed table legs, etc) 1/64" of an inch deviation at 12" is roughly 3/16" at 48", which means parts don't meet, and/or are not flush along their surfaces/edges, or are not the desired angle when they do.

A 1/64" variance in material _thickness_ will play havoc with the way other parts fit together.

Cumulative error is the bugaboo of any endeavors, including woodworking, where precision is required.

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Swingman

LOL, Then picture me on a Maserati. ;~) Actually a 2012 Camry SE V6 and 07 Tundra.

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Leon

Meant to say roughly "doubled".

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Swingman

Leon, you need to come check in at ToyotaNation(dot)com forums. All the cool kids hang out there.

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Richard

Ah, so neither Boeing or GE use 3-D modeling to design airplanes or engines. They hand draw anything that requires precision. Got it.

Absurd. You *clearly* don't have a clue.

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krw

True indeed. On the other hand..simple isnt always "simple"

Build a grade 8 ball bearing.

Its simple.

Then do a grade 9

It too is simple...

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Gunner Asch

Gunner, with a 1 1/8"x 10 x 1 1/2" x 11 tap on his desk

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Gunner Asch

And in big ones too. As Pytor indicated...he turned 30' shafts that were in .0004 tolerance. 30 Foot shafts.

Gunner

__ "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." - Heinlein

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Gunner Asch

True indeed. Now if we made stuff that was .015624...we call em blacksmith fits

Hammer to shape, file to fit..paint to cover.

(Grin)

Gunner

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Gunner Asch

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