Hi, I'm new to the group- didn't even know there was such a thing as
Google Groups until today. I like to make band saw boxes, and I'm
writing a book for Sterling Publishing on the subject. I'm looking for
a couple more boxes to be featured in the 'boxes for inspiration'
pages. They must be your own design and well done. I'll need some good
pictures, and I will send details to anyone who is interested. Please
contact me at email@example.com if you have something appropriate. Send
a small file or two (50K)of your boxes.
Because you're using Google Groups.
Except that you're not. You're actually using "Usenet newsgroups"
(Google can tell you the rest). These are a worldwide and distributed
network of connected news servers. There's no one place that Usenet is
The best way to access Usenet is through a client program like Agent
(free trial at www.forteinc.com) You can even use Outlook for this,
but it's not very good. You'll need an account on a news server too.
Your ISP might have a (usually poor) one, you can use a free service
like the one in Berlin, or you can pay somwhere like Supernews for a
Usenet is also gatewayed to the web. This used to be done by DejaNews,
then bought by Google, but there are others too. Google Groups also
maintains a historical archive for 20 years of past postings - very
Recently though, Google have started to Be Evil. They now hide email
addresses in usenet postings - including yours. They all came through,
but Google presumably hid them from you reading them.
They aren't being evil at all, they are doing you a favor and they do
it to stop the spammers from scraping email addresses from usenet
postings. Just write the email address as myname at gmail dot com i
think even myname @ gmail .com would do the trick. Also Google Groups
is a great interface to Usenet, so welcome to the fray Donna.
I think they're munging the email address when you view it on google,
but not when you view it with a newsreader, so your email address is
just as vulnerable as it ever was. The spammers have been harvesting
from newsgroups for a lot longer than google's been around.
As to whether Google is a great interface - that depends on who you
are, I guess. In my case it's my absolute last choice. If I can read
usenet any other way, I do. Today, I can't.
So how does this stop spammers ? Usenet's an open system - any
unmunged address on Usenet is already getting hammered.
I hope they're not being Evil, but I suspect there's a revenue model
in the offing.
Right, but for newbies like Donna munging it prevents it from ever
getting on usenet to begin with. You can change the display name to
whatever you like, I use damian penney but it could just as easily be
the actual email address.
Suggest you go to the forum at the following and ask the question and /
or search the archives as I have seen some beautiful boxes there. Cheers,
Thanks for the recommendation, JGS; I'll do that.
Oops- went there and had a tough time finding anything specific to band
saw boxes. Had to search on specific issues and then got every post.
That is not too helpful. What am I doing wrong? Is there a location for
pictures- or- is there a way to show just posts relating to specific
And thanks to the rest of you for clarifying the addy problem.
I guess, then, that there are no archives in this group?
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