Bad purchase, cheapo table saw

From that statement I think you think you are way smarter than most people and I think you are wrong.

Most people are just as smart and aware as you, they just make different de cisions than you would make. Somehow you think your decisions are undoubted ly correct and theirs are wrong; when in reality theirs are just different.

You can present all the logic you want for the correctness of your decision s but it doesn't make any case at all for why their different decision is n ot also correct, for them.

I fully understand the value of buying a quality product and I have common sense and I buy crappy products all the time. Yes, I do like to complain ab out just how crappy something is at times and yes I get surprised sometimes , like this crappy saw and find out it was too crappy to do what I wanted b ut that doesn't mean I don't have common sense.

For instance Festools are undoubtedly far superior to most standard brands but I will never likely buy one because I value my cash flow over getting 1

0 years vs 5 years of service for twice the price. I can get results that w ork for me from far less expensive devices now and in many cases I come out way ahead because I never use the tool enough to have justified the stupid high prices of some manufacturers.

Next speaker.

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Sum Ting Wong ... you must not own a TV, or drive on a freeway in the increasingly urban environments, eh?

By definition, 50% of the people fall on the left side of bell curve as far as smarts, and 50% of those are way dumber than that ... IOW, why Springer, Kardashian, Honey BB, et al, and reality TV are so highly popular.

You can't fix stupid, but you can sure cater to it. Just ask any politician, or Chinese tool/dog food purveyor.

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Swingman

Or an other way of saying it is "50% of the people are less that average intelligence."

That ones has gotten me in a lot of trouble. However whatever anyone thinks it is absolutely true.

If they question it that shows what side of average they are on

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Keith Nuttle

No, I think if I am smart enough to figure something out it should be obtainable by most every one else. I have most often commented in years past, If I can figure it out you should be able to figure it our. If you can't figure it out, I may not be able to either.

No doubt.

Somehow you think your decisions are undoubtedly correct and theirs are wrong; when in reality theirs are just different.

That is entirely possible.

So are you saying that people that are not happy and or complain about the decisions that they have made have in fact made the decision that is correct for them???

O crap, seriously, O crap. I had forgotten all about the beginning of this thread, you buying the inexpensive TS. I in no way was pointing my above comments at you at all. In addition I completely understand the logic of buying a throw away product. It certainly makes sense to not take an expensive tool to a wok site especially if it is not warranted. For that matter I buy crappy products too and for the same reason. Again, my comment was not at all directed at you so please accept my apologies if I in any way came across the wrong way. That was certainly not my intent. Now, I would still return the TS, I personally consider $200 a bit much to write off, so to speak in my case.

And as much as I like to talk about Festools, that brand was not even in the scope of what I was thinking. I will say that I try to buy a brand I have heard of vs. a no name brand.

Again, I absolutely was not trying to throw in an insult or belittle you at all. My comments were more of a knee jerk reaction by the comment that Claire made,

" "Don't know why retailers insist on selling junk, and American consumers continue to buy it up at a record pace."

And for the record I think a lot of the problems this society has is directly connected with the time we as parents spend with our kids. AAMOF my wife and I both worked when we had our first and only son. Like those that continue to do the same, I saw no problem or repercussions. Then one day I said enough is enough and quit my job and retired. Our son was 7 at the time. I became a stay at home dad and things were pretty tight for a few years. Our son ended up doing quite well and perhaps that would have happened regardless if I had not retired. Either way I know that our son benefited from one of us being a stay at home parent. Unfortunately a lot of kids don't have that option and lack the guidance that a loving parent offers over that of a child care professional.

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Leon

I have a "rule" that I generally follow. Never buy the cheapest or the most expensive of anything (I intend to use for more than 5 minutes.)

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clare

I generally like to find/buy GOOD used tools. "Experienced" tools, as I call them. They have worked for a few to many years - there is a good chance they will continue to work for a while - and repair parts are generally available. Buy new cheap crap and you have no idea if they will work AT ALL - much-less how long - and generally repair parts are virtually impossible to aquire, because they are basically not worth fixing.

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clare

Exactly. He answered his own question.

It's not even that simple. You have to carry things that may not even sell. If people don't think there is a very high chance that they'll find everything they need, they'll drive right by your store and go the competitor. You can't just sell 1" screws. You have to sell

1-1/4" too (an example of why I won't go to many mom-n-pop hardware stores).

As Bill Bennett said after the last election, "The voter has spoken, and now he must be punished." ...or perhaps, "Stupid is as stupid does."

I don't think the economy would slow down at all.

Pass...

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krw

...and the other half are suspect.

Well, there is a difference between "mean" and "average". ;-)

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krw

On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 18:39:50 -0500, Leon

Aren't you leaving major parts of the solving ability out? I think people can be comparable in intelligence yet have different aptitudes. Aptitudes that can enable someone to solve something while another similarly intelligent person has greater difficulty.

Maybe one person has an aptitude for mathematics while another person might have an aptitude for a science. Possibly one person might possess the doggedness to keep working on a problem while someone else with fairly equal intelligence might give up much more easily. There's all sorts of variables that come into play that may not be related to straight intelligence.

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none

On mega statistical populations of an open variable they become equal.

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knuttle

You have a point there, but I used to make that comment when making a comparison to several that were hired to do the same job. They were hired, because of their experience to do a relatively specialized job. I was hired as a PT, do what ever needs to be done, kin in school. I was often asked by our boss to help, those with the special skills, diagnose a problem.

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Leon

For a normal distribution curve, which applies to intelligence, mean and average are the same. For a skewed curve, they are not.

Also mean, median, and mode are all equal for a normal curve.

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Larry Blanchard

Only if the distribution is normal (and symmetrical).

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krw

I think you'll find it is. There are more people with an IQ of 120 than 80, and more 140 than 60.

Assuming a normal distribution.

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krw

On 9/28/2013 2:04 PM, snipped-for-privacy@attt.bizz wrote: ...

A normal (Gaussian) is symmetrical by definition.

When is the arithmetic mean not the average, again?

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dpb

Well, I'd presume that's what was meant by "normal curve" and it's true for any symmetric unimodal distribution, not just normal (Gaussian).

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dpb

Sorry, but I meant that not half the people are above average. Half of a distribution is above MEDIAN, but not necessarily the mean.

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krw

Sorry, you're mistaken. But don't believe me. I quote:

"Many distributions fall on a normal curve, especially when large samples of data are considered. These normal distributions include height, weight, IQ, SAT Scores, GRE and GMAT Scores, among many others. This is important to understand because if a distribution is normal, there are certain qualities that are consistent and help in quickly understanding the scores within the distribution

The mean, median, and mode of a normal distribution are identical and fall exactly in the center of the curve."

The quote is taken from:

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Larry Blanchard

Garrison says all are above average... :)

All I know about indicates that population sample of IQs isn't demonstrable as _not_ following a normal distribution; if that is so then it is so that as well as can be determined there are as many above the mean as below...

I just did a _very_ quick search and didn't find anything convincing that the assumption isn't so; I did find the following abstract --

Of course, if the claim of the "vocal minority" were so, it would lead to a skewed distribution to the right, not the left.

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dpb

Which definitely confirms my point. You brought certain skills to the problem that the specialists might have lacked.

Working as a technical writer, I frequently participated in various projects. While the design experts had all the technical knowledge that anyone could every want, their communications skills were frequently lacking. It was my job to bridge what they were trying to say and make it understandable to the managers and sales people.

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