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Many ISP's now consider Usenet to be a secondary service. Typically, only a very small percentage of users even know what news is, much less how to access it directly.

There's another whole bunch that access news via websites that claim to host "forums", only to display newsgroups via a web page.

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Yup... I think that's universal for sympatico customers. I often check an archival website for any pics I may have missed.

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'm not sure how that is updated, but it certainly has more coverage that Sympatico.

A HandyMan with patches, eh? What ARE you doing to our reputation as a nation? *G*

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Robatoy

OUCH.. my old 10 meg hard drive is turning in it's grave, Dave..

mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

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mac davis

Oh, I know. My first hard drive had 5 meg fixed, and 5 meg per removable diskpack. Size of a small washing machine.

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Dave Hinz

I was proud of my first "hard" drive ... a spiffy GE Cassette Recorder. Put that "huge" 640kb floppy to shame.

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Swingman

I've still got some audio casettes with data on them. I wonder if they're readable, 25 years later. I have a theory...

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Dave Hinz

Beat me to it.

I remember having to buy a second floppy drive and getting it installed in an early IBM personal computer. The second floppy was an upgrade from the cassette recorder. This was done at the same time I "upgraded" my memory 128 K to a robust 256 K RAM.

I was the envy of many because I could have separate application and data floppies.

And I paid some outrageous amount of money for this electronic horsepower too.

I am certain that this qualifies me for some kinda fossil designation.

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Lee Michaels

Yeah, I tried Google groups too. Same response as Greg. j4

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jo4hn

I'm with Intergate and they sublet the news to Supernews. Works pretty well. There are a few lowcost news servers around, but most of the free ones have gone away.

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Larry Blanchard

The first "hard drive" I remember was on a GE425. It was a single 2' (about) diameter platter mounted vertically with a single slow-moving head. I wrote a DOS-style O/S for it around '65 or '66.

But even now, I don't need a terabyte. I've got 2 8GB drives. One has both W95 and Linux on it, and the other is a backup for it. Of course, I don't fill my disk with music and movies :-).

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Larry Blanchard

| On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 17:09:40 +0000, Dave Hinz wrote: | || I've still got some audio casettes with data on them. I wonder if || they're readable, 25 years later. I have a theory... | | I doubt it. I finally gave up and threw away my 8" floppies. A | few years before that I trash canned my 800bpi mag tapes :-).

Makes me really glad I saved all the really important stuff on paper tape...

;-D

-- Morris Dovey DeSoto Solar DeSoto, Iowa USA

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Morris Dovey

I doubt it. I finally gave up and threw away my 8" floppies. A few years before that I trash canned my 800bpi mag tapes :-).

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Larry Blanchard

Yeah, that's my theory too. But, it's very low density, maybe 150 baud or so. Might be able to bring it back with an EQ. It'd be interesting to see what I was writing 25 years ago. Probably cringe-worthy.

We tossed a bunch of tapes when I was at GE, in 1998. Two years later, I got to do the "Guys, I hate to say this, but I really did tell you so" thing when we needed those tapes for some Y2K crap. Ended up retiring some ancient systems, though.

Our "Software Shaman" (his real title) got a refresher in what that little yellow ring on the back of the 9-track tapes is for, and why you should be really sure before mounting a unique tape that it's read-only when you do it. We had to get a customer to send us back a copy of that one. Not so good. I could probably still make him cringe, today, by showing him the write-enable ring.

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Dave Hinz

Got holes?

At least it's human readable that way, in a pinch.

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Dave Hinz

| On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 12:09:01 -0600, Morris Dovey | wrote: || Larry Blanchard (in snipped-for-privacy@fastmail.fm) || said: || ||| On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 17:09:40 +0000, Dave Hinz wrote: ||| |||| I've still got some audio casettes with data on them. I wonder |||| if they're readable, 25 years later. I have a theory... ||| ||| I doubt it. I finally gave up and threw away my 8" floppies. A ||| few years before that I trash canned my 800bpi mag tapes :-). || || Makes me really glad I saved all the really important stuff on || paper tape... | | Got holes? | | At least it's human readable that way, in a pinch.

Ugh! I actually do have a jar of holes somewhere :-)

And I still have my splicer and a couple of boxes of Mylar splices (just in case).

-- Morris Dovey DeSoto Solar DeSoto, Iowa USA

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Morris Dovey

I fixed the problem of the write ring being left in by filling in the slot with glue. You couldn't get that write ring in there to save your soul. spaz, jo4hn

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jo4hn

Well, unless my wife has had a fit of housecleaning that I don't know about, I've still got some Fortran programs on punched cards somewhere. At least they've been through an interpreter, so I know they can be read manually if nothing else :-).

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Larry Blanchard

Yeah, but does the tape reader have a USB port? :-)

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Mark & Juanita

Yep. Paid close to $900 for the 20 Meg hard drive for my TI PC. Was thrilled because only a few weeks before, that had been the price for a 10 Meg drive.

Don't think one could even find an OS that would fit on that small a drive anymore.

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Mark & Juanita

... snip

Teranews seems to have almost a gift for being able to shoot themselves in the foot -- continuously.

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Mark & Juanita

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