I dunno; parents are way too permissive from what I've seen in public
with kids cursing, standing on restaurant tables and the parents act
totally oblivious. I would have been drawn and quartered if I'd done
1/2 of what the little brats today get away with on a regular basis.
Look at Supernanny or Nanny 911 to get a glimpse of todays little
monsters and their pathetically inept parents.
Could the crime rate be "down" because now there are so many criminals in
the system that they plea bargain every offense down?
In your town alone, how many criminals have gotten off light, or had their
offense pled down, and gone free with time served?
That is why the figures are down. The formula has been changed.
You can find statistics to support any conclusion.
As the parent of a 2nd grader, and who is active in our neighborhood
elementary school (middle to lower income families with a good
percentage hispanic), plus live across the street from a city
playground/park, I can say the vast majority of kids behave as we would
expect them to - polite, mannered and good all around kids. I've seen
nothing of the sort of bad behavior you are relating. Occasionally I've
witnessed a melt-down, inappropriate behavior or foul language but by
and large the instances are rare.
Don't get too fixated up on believing that what you see on TV is
commonplace. The programs like Supernanny wouldn't exist if the
scenarios were not over-the-top - likewise with the "news magazine"
You know how, when you are interested in a buying a certain vehicle, you
spot that car "all over the place"? It's not that they weren't there all
the time, it's just that you are now focusing your attention on looking
for them. I believe the same is true of most things - if you are looking
for poor behavior, you'll spot it. You'll become overly critical and
judgmental since it's something you dislike - generalizing that kids
today are out of control merely because you have become fixated on every
instance you can spot.
I only notice the kids in public that are acting up. What galls me is
the parents give-a-shit attitude, like their kids behavior is fine and
dandy. would you eat at a table where you just witness 2 kids JUMPING
all over the table with their dirty shoes? The kids don't respect the
parents and I doubt the parents have much self respect either. My kid
would never have even THOUGHT about acting like such a hellion, much
less that I'd have to punish such behavior.
| I believe the same is true of most things - if you
| for poor behavior, you'll spot it. You'll become
overly critical and
| judgmental since it's something you dislike -
generalizing that kids | today are out of control
merely because you have become fixated |on every
instance you can spot.
| Owen Lowe
| The Fly-by-Night Copper Company
| There is no "W" in Leadership.
I'm not sure I agree. But, then maybe I do.
When you turn off the TV news, focus only on the Sports
section of the newspaper, cut some wood, socialize with
your family, friends and neighbors, the kids you know
aren't bad at all. (NIMBY)
But the kids in another neighborhood, another city,
another state are the ones with poor grades and
juvenile records. So let us just raise taxes and pass
But I'm not paranoid but they are after me.
Or build more prisons, start more intervention programs...
But then, how about let's concentrate our attention and mentoring with
our own neighborhood's kids instead of criticizing those across town, in
another state or country. Get involved with kids in *your* local school,
sports, your library reading program, etc. - you'll be richly rewarded
and you'll be a positive influence on their lives. I think you'll
(generically speaking) find you have little to complain about once you
get to know them - besides, it's great when they see you out and about
and enthusiastically come up to greet you - that's when you know you're
making a difference.
Try it out for an hour a week - I bet you'll be looking to put in more
time in short order.
You have seen NOTHING in the way of paddling unless you have visited foreign
countries where caning is allowed.
It is administered with a wet piece of cane about 1/4" in diameter and about
five feet long. If the person administering the caning is thought to hold
back, he gets twice the number of lashes. They swing for the cheap seats,
They do it on bare hindsides and backs. The backs of the thighs. People
being whipped scream and dance from foot to foot. They void all over
themselves. Their screams are every bit as piercing as any two year old
And most don't repeat the experiences.
Too bad it is not used in the US.
Hurts, but if the cane is swung too vigorously it can do serious injury--if
the caner gets too vigorous then the doctor stops the show. And it's not
really all that much worse than a good paddling with a wooden paddle.
Here is a Rant, if you do not want to read it, just go on to the next
When I have bad service from a waitress, I do not have to wait until I
am leaving the restaurant to speak to a manager. I have gone up to the
manager and asked for what I wanted for my table telling him that my
waitress was nowhere to be found, or whatever they were doing. It is
amazing how fast the service improves.
And as for a manager who is indifferent, a letter to the owner of the
restaurant, or to the President of the chain that owns the restaurant,
usually results in at least an attitude correction of the manager, or a
replacement of the manager. It really is amazing the things that
happens when the complaint works its way down instead of up.
My letters have resulted in more than one manager change, and that
includes all kinds of businesses, not just in restaurants. Just give the
very top officers of a company documentation of how a manager is
mistreating the customers, or give them just a hint of what some of
these yo-yos are suggesting that they can, and will, do if they cannot
extort protection money out of someone, and they will be history, gone
Now, as for giving tips for service. When I make a contract, I see to
it that all charges for what services that I will receive is spelled out
in writing. Non of this he said, they said stuff. If my contract calls
for them to set my shipment on the ground, then that is what they had
better do, and no extra hidden charge. I don't care if the delivery
person has to pick up a 500 lb. package and jump down to the street
level without damaging it, that is their problem how they get it down to
the street level to fulfill the contract. But when that delivery person
goes beyond what the contract calls for, they I do believe in offering
them a tip. Some will take it, some won't.
A tip or gratuity is for service over and above what has been contracted
for. In a restaurant, for the price on the menu, it is a normal
contract between the customer and the management that for a fixed price
there will be the table set accordingly, the food and drinks delivered
to the table. Now if that is all that the waitress does then why should
I pay her for exactly what the restaurant is paying her. After all that
is what she agreed to work for. Just as what you, or I, agree to work
for on any job, If we do not like the pay, then leave for a better
paying job. I do not expect tips when I fix your car, and I do not
expect tips when I fix your airplane, and I do not expect tips when I
cut your grass that you contracted with me to do. I set my price. Period.
Do I give tips? Absolutely I have and will, when I receive good service
over and above what is contracted for. I have given as much as a 100%
tip on one occasion, for the waitress was worth every cent. And another
who on her asking what else she could do for us, I said Jokingly for her
to give me the money to pay for the meal, upon which she dug into her
tip pocket and put a handful of money on my table then walked away. You
can be sure that she not only got back every penny but also more than
double what she laid on the table.
If you want a tip from me, you are going to have to do more than just
what the contract says. I do not give just because you expect it. My
money is hard to come by, maybe even harder to come by than that they
have earned. I grew up in an era when people took pride in whatever
work that they did. While there are still some of you out there who
still has that work ethic, it is becoming as rare as hen's teeth. I see
too many today who believes that everyone should pay them for doing
nothing. I know that you see they too.
When I was growing up, if I mis behaved in public, I got a size 10 hand
on my size 4 bottom in a big hurry, and it did not have to be applied
very often. Today obnoxious children in a restaurant is common. so
common that when I see parents in a restaurant who have well behaved
children, I always go up to them and thank them for their well behaved
So much for the RANT. If you feel that you should double everyones pay,
then throw some my way, I would appreciate a little help to go along
with my SS.
Steve B wrote:
You mean that you didn't arrange for your teamster buddies to lose their
next order of tacos?
As for her attitude, I suspect based on the general attitude that you have
expressed here that what she was thinking and didn't say was "Thank God I'm
not going to have to put up with _this_ jerk anymore".
What do you expect her to do though? The manager can't spank the kids.
Why didn't you ask to be moved to another table?
Her attitude was "whatever" because she hears that threat from people
like you 5 times a shift. The funny thing is, that most people who
threaten that do come back. LOL.
In the end, your meal two times a month doesn't make much of a
difference. Interesting how you complained about PITA customers when
you delivered frieght, and now you were a PITA customer to the manager.
What exactly did you expect her to do? Throw out the family with kids
to appease a customer that's threatened to never come back?
If the food is lousy it's not the waiter's fault, but part of the tip
usually goes to the cook (you think the waiter gets to keep it all?).
I don't have a problem with leaving a tip. I _do_ have a problem with being
told that I _must_ leave a tip of a certain amount, especially when the
service sucks (which it usually does in places where they attempt to force
you to tip). If the management wants the staff to have a 15% raise they
should raise their prices 15% and then pay them.
Well, in all the restaurants I ever cooked in neither I nor any other
person in the kitchen ever saw a penny of the tips. The waiters in one
place used to moan about only making $20-$30 an hour in tips (back in
the 70's!) while as the lead line cook I only made about $6.
If the food is bad tell the server and have them pass the gripe on to
the cook. If the service is bad tell the server and minimize the tip.
If they're both bad tell the manager and don't tip anyone.
"We need to make a sacrifice to the gods, find me a young virgin... oh, and
bring something to kill"
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