Are router bits created equally?

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Should I pay more for Porter Cable or Bosch router bits? Or should I just get the Ryobi ones? What about "off brands"? I cannot find a 1/8" bit straight (1/4" shank) cut anywhere that is not in one of the "higher" priced ones, except in the off brands on Ebay or Harbor Freight. Thanks.
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Can't say about Bosch, but PC bits are worth lots more than theoff brand ones. Whiteside is better still. Jim
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More than what? Maybe, yes, but you can do better.

No
What do you consider off brand?
I cannot find a

Look here http://www.infinitytools.com/products.asp?dept 89
Infinity, Whiteside, Amana, and a half dozen others that escape me at the moment are top quality professional grade. Avoid the lowest bidder on things that spin 22,000 rpm.
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Check out:
http://www.mlcswoodworking.com /
They have a lot of decent bits for the beginner. I have used them for 15+ years. Still "beginning" I guess!
Lou
PS: Get the 1/2 shanks at no extra cost.
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I like this company. Good prices. Is Cal-Hawk garbage? I found a cheap bit for $2.25 on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&itemC92588557&category 781&sspagename=rvi:1:3v_home#ebayphotohosting
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snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&itemC92588557&category 781&sspagename=rvi:1:3v_home#ebayphotohosting

The axiom "you get what you pay for" holds up well when it comes to router bits.
Dave
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Now understand I know nothing of what I am asking, but what could go wrong here? It's a carbide tipped piece of metal. I am not doubting you at all. I'd just like to understand. Thanks.
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snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote:

there's more to it than just that it's made of carbide! I've got some really crappy carbide bits. and I have so long lasting, balanced, well designed bits that are a pleasure to use. And all carbide is NOT the same. Think ice cream or peanut butter. Ever thought that ALL ice cream or peanut butter is the same?? No way! A company that puts out pricey yet superior bits doesn't fold it's tent and go bankrupt because there are cheapy bits on the market. Discerning woodworkers know that the expensive bit is worth the extra bucks; otherwise how do you think Amana, CMT, et all stay in business? Maybe YOU don't want to use the better brands, BUT THERE IS A DIFFERENCE. If you can't tell, content yourself with the junky ones.
Dave
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The one shown is not carbide, it is high speed steel. It wears faster than carbide. Yes, you may get a cut if you want a 3" slot, but it may start to burn shortly after. Better bits of that size are solid carbide, not HSS. Check out the bits at www.infinitytools.com
You'll be on your third or fourth bit. gouging up the wood, burning it, and I'll still be making smooth cuts.
Next lesson: Types of carbide. Yes there are different grades.
There are many other design factors that also come into play. The amount of metal, types of welds, and on and on.
Let's say you have $50 in wood and 10 hours in time to get your project to a certain state. The final step is to cut a 1/8" groove with your router. Yes, this is going to be very visible, very critical. What bit should you use? Just something to think about.
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Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

the bit in the link he provided says it's carbide. the one at the top of the page.
Dave
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You must have a different link. All the ones here are HSS and yes, I've used one and yes, it is garbage. When I first bought a router AI had no idea what bits I needed so I got a few cheapies to try it out. Cut about 12" of pine and I tossed them.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&itemC76210006&categoryP387&sspagename=rvi:1:2v_home#ebayphotohosting
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Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&itemC76210006&categoryP387&sspagename=rvi:1:2v_home#ebayphotohosting

I've gotten some so bad I took them back to the store for a refund. vipers from HD. I ended up keeping the Woodlines but they don't cut well. Now that I have a dado blade for the tablesaw I don't need to use the Woodline plywood bits as often so I see no need to buy good replacements for the Woodlines.
Dave
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Thanks. Very informative as your other post. I have narrowed to your inifinitytools.com site and this one:
http://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/smarthtml/pages/bt_solid.html
Both are almost the same price.
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snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote:

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You have been chasing this thing for a week now.
Remember, if you buy them books and they eat the covers, not much you can do.
One more time now:
Good tools, especially cutting tools, are not low cost.
Some are cheap, but they are not low cost.
Lew
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If I had it to do again I would go with a PC because of it's widespread availability of add-ons. It seems that everything I read says, "Fits PC ######". Read the catalogs and look at baseplates, router tabletops, Router-Raiser, etc. In my green-ness I bought the Dewalt 618BK3 (three bases) and while it's a quality piece I'm a little limited due to inexperience. You will be able to adapt plates and some other accessories with a little effort - gatta learn sometime, I guess.

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Until they prove they don't deserve it, CMT will continue to get my business.
Lew
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I'd avoid the off brands and Harbor Freight stuff. I've personally used and been pleased with Amana, CMT, and Whiteside.
I've heard people here recommend www.routerbits.com.
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So something like this is garbage?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&itemC76210006&categoryP387&sspagename=rvi:1:2v_home#ebayphotohosting
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snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&itemC76210006&categoryP387&sspagename=rvi:1:2v_home#ebayphotohosting
That seems a fair inference.
Dave
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