Anyone have/seen the FWW 1975-2009 Archive DVD-ROM?


I keep considering the Fine Woodworking Archive DVD, basially to both save shelf space (I have several feet of FWW) and also to make it somewhat easier to find things. Does anyone out there have it? If so:
a) how useful do you find it, vs. the hardcopy magazine with the annual indexes?
b) How high quality are the scans? I use the magazine (e.g., the reader gallery) for project ideas and inspiration, and would be disappointed if the scans are low enough resolution that they aren't as nice as the printed photos.
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Andy,
I know this isn't the same, but Popular Woodworking digital copies are excellent. They contain everything, including the ads. It's easy to browse and print. I use it frequently tho I don't have every year.
I still have my hard copy archive. Every now and then, I take a copy and read before falling asleep.
Perhaps, you should direct your questions to Fine Woodworking? Ask for some samples! If the scans are like the PDF files that you have access to for $14 a year, they are VERY good.
MJ

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The woodworking teacher at the Indianapolis Art Center (a professional wookworker for about 35 years who does know his stuff) tells me each time he sees me that I need this. Even with a full collection of the printed magazines, he never looks at them -- the search funtion for the electronic version can bring up every reference from issue 1 to present day. (I assume that includes errata where necessary.)
He's used a couple of the articles as handouts in class, and the reproduction quality is what one would wish -- limited only by your output device, assuming no one is still using a dot matrix printer.
In any case, it's faster, easier, and more thorough than manually searching issues or indexes. You are, however, less likely to make the serendipitous discovery when your search is so directed. I'll probably continue to thumb the mags I have and visit the used bookstores... there's certainly more out there than one magazine piublisher.
<rant> I've always thought of FWW as the "ne plus ultra" of the woodworking magazines, though lately I think they've slipped. It REALLY frosts me that any meaningful access to their website is only by subscription. Perhaps their business model assumes that web will eventually supplant print -- and video is a wonderful teaching tool (and awfully hard to do on the printed page) -- but other publishers seem to regard the web as an adjunct to their publishing efforts rather than as merely another revenue stream. </ rant>
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An interesting rant. Consider your complaint in light of say Lee Valley. They have shops, yet expect you pay more than shipping to get their tools from an online site. Publishers sell Information. Some of them are willing to give away some information online in the hope that you will buy something else from them or from their advertisers. Last I looked at the FWW site they did not display ads, so they need to make money somewhere else: FWW has chosen to charge for subscriptions whether print or online.
Personally I'd love to see more of FWW free, but understand why I don't. I suspect that the more practical the information is the less likely you are to find it free online regardless of field of interest.
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On 6/21/2010 10:30 PM, Lobby Dosser wrote:

Understand Steve's rant, but even now that it's gone up to circa $35/year, I've personally found it well worth the price when needing info quickly, or even some fresh perspective on solving a problem, and I can generally pick and choose the topics and pdf files that I'm interested in and not bother with those I'm not ... besides, it's a business expense for me.
AAMOF, recently a pdf compendium of many past articles on built-in's was particularly worth the $3/month price of admission for my purposes.
That said, the DVD is an attractive option and I'm probably approaching having paid that price in yearly web access fee's at this point.
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Swingman wrote:

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I suppose if were actually commercial I'd look at it that way as well, but...
What irks me no end is the no access even for paid subscribers to just look up something that is in the hardcopy that _did_ bought and paid for already, already...
It ain't the amount so much, it's the double-dipping idea that just sticks... :(
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Is that $35 the price for online only? Do you also have to buy a hard copy subscription? I can't seem to find the price without going through some hoops and I'd rather not jump. Just looking at the site again, I'm thinking it might be worth more than buying an issue now and then.
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On 6/24/2010 10:05 PM, Lobby Dosser wrote:

I have an online subscription only, although I buy the occasional magazine on the newsstand.
However, I just looked and I can read what appears to be all the articles in the July/August 2010 issue online, from the online member page. Furthermore, each can be downloaded in pdf format to your local storage drive.
IMO, there is a world of information available on finewoodworking.com for $3/month that is just too good to pass up at that price.
It is a readily available resource ... like that Fein MultiMaster, you don't use it everyday, but when you're in need of the tool/information it saves time and money.
As always, YMMV ...
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Sounds too good to pass up. Thanks!
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Yes "Pay Wall" is a big issue on the web right now. I think anyone who doesn't figure out how to make it feel free is never going to last (or at least not prosper). FWW is just teetering between the new and old media world. Trust me when I say the old publishing dogs just toss and turn at night to think anything is free. This is why the old media is doomed., i.e. newspapers.
I was the General Manager of several sites for an early web portal business that was experiencing great growth until the old dogs started hating on the free access model (which generated real revenue). Their decline can be mapped directly to the succesive steps of less and less free access\info. They are alive today but just a shadow of their former selves.
We had a yellow pages type model focused on various industries where every business gets listed for free and anyone can buy bigger ads. Having a general listing for every possible business in an industry attracted lots of eyes and was very useful. Once they restricted it to only list companies that had paid for a listing, the site was eviserated to only have the few companies that had bought space and the traffic stopped. The model had lots of ways to make money from visiting eyes and didn't only live on paid listings but once the eyes were gone then so was the biggest revenue source. Shame to see it languish.
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Hi Andy
I have the DVD. It is a superb resource. I keep a copy on the harddrive of my laptop and dip into it whenever I have a need. The search facility gets me what I need fast. I do prefer reading the magazines, and have most on my shelf for brousing, but when I am looking for something specific, then it is the DVD I go to.
Regards from Perth
Derek Cohen
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