Yesterday in the mail there came a catalog I've never seen before, a
company called Leichtung Workshops out of Casper, WY. Has anybody on
the wreck bought from them and what have your experiences been?
Some of their stuff is priced the same as anybody else's ($37 for a
set of 3 plug cutters, same price as the Veritas at my local pro
shop). But what caught my eye were their prices on clamps. It was
literally 2 hours after I had just bought a couple Jorgensen 6" bar
clamps at my local hardware retailer for $9.99 each that the Leichtung
catalog came advertising a no-name brand for $3.99 and 36" for $8.99
(vs. $24.99 locally). Their version of a band clamp is $18.99 vs. $38
at the Rockler outlet.
So is this just another outlet like Harbor tool, selling cheaply made
knock offs? Or is their stuff decent? Thanks in advance.
About 15 or so years ago I bought a doweling jig from them. Can't
remember what I
paid or if the price was inline with other companies products, but the
is very well made without any "cheapness" in design or materials. I
are basically just another one of the "boutique" type shops with a few
of their own
products, a few of the popular products from others, and with a
smattering of cheesy
offshore products thrown in for good measure.
I think they were independent at one point, but they're part of
Woodworker's Supply now.
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About 15 - 20 years ago Leichtung, with the woodworkers I know, was
respected for quality merchandise. I haven't heard much about them in
recent years. Trying their web site at:
it brings up "Woodworker's Supply". I suspect, somewhere along the line,
Leichtung was bought out and now "they" are trying to revive the name.
Buffalo, NY - USA
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My only gripe about Leichtung Workshops is that if you encourage them in any
way (like buying from them), they will bury you in catalogs. They aren't as
bad as Trendlines in that regard, but I won't purchase from them again.
(Trendlines is worse because they ASSUME that all woodworkers MUST love
golf, so they bury you in woodworking and golfing catalogs. And it is
virtually impossible to get off any unwanted list they decide to add you
to.) Personally, I don't like buying from companies that are strictly
marketing companies and aren't really into whatever it is that they sell and
that is my perception of Leichtung and Trendlines.
The theory has been bandied about here for years. No one, however, has been
able to find a single case of an explosion actually happening in a small
shop. A little documentation would go a long way to convince us of a real
well, the "potential" is there but so is the potential for a wheel to
fall off an airplane and land on your car (which has happened). You
cannot protect against every possibility although there are those that
try. I have metal ductwork because I find it easier to work with but if
I had PVC I would only ground it to stop it discharging to me.
Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
Here we go... <G>
Please point us to a documented case of a wood shop dust collector
explosion due to static electricity. Ciggies, glowing embers or
glowing metal shavings don't count. If it's not on the web, I'll
volunteer to go get a copy of the news article from my local
university library and put it up on the web.
I'll simply need the date and name of the paper, TV, or radio entity
that published it. I'll do the rest to get it on the web.
FWIW, I pulled my ground wires out of my DC pipes, as they caused
clogging if an offcut or large chip landed the right way.
On Sun, 07 Dec 2003 13:41:44 GMT, B a r r y B u r k e J r .
Now Barry... don't rain on the guy's parade. Simply instruct the nice
man that only approved way to ground a PVC dust collection system is
run a wire from it to a PVC pipe driven into the dirt. :)
Hmm... I think I fukd up. Do I have to replace all the monofilament
fishing line? That'll take longer than a winter in Luigiland.
How 'bout if I shoot 16-gauge brads through the fishing line into the
PVC? That should improve the connectical disjointing of the charge
On 09 Dec 2003, Michael Baglio <mbaglio spake unto rec.woodworking:
What are you, a child? If you use differentially valented materials,
i.e. nylon filament and brads, on humid days the moisture in the air will
set up a battery-like effect, and the ions in the air will rust the top of
your table saw down to the trunnions before you can grab the WD-40.
If I were you, I'd bring in a Feng-Shui master to make sure your
ductwork isn't constricting the flow of positive energy through your
personal space. You might want to get your chakras aligned as well, just
to be on the safe side.
I've heard genuine wool thread, NOT cotton, will also work well.
Don't forget to grease the connections with non-petroleum lube. I
hear KY works well at a fair price. You could probably steal a tube
when the doctor is out of the room during your next physical.
As the saying goes "you can't be first, but you can be next"...
http://www.engcollab.com/articles/understanding1.htm (safety info)
"The bin was collecting dust from the plant when the sawdust was
ignited by a spark. The spark was probably caused by a metal fragment
or nail striking the machinery."
Not static electricity. The other reference on the page is spontaneous
combustion, not explosion.
Explosion caused by existing fire in the hopper, not static electricity.
... but again, no example of an explosion caused by static electricity.
http://www.engcollab.com/articles/understanding1.htm (safety info)
I like this one:
1.. Dust collectors shall be located outside of buildings. Dust collectors
may be located inside of buildings if they are located near an outside wall,
are vented to the outside through straight reinforced ducts not exceeding
10 feet in length, and have explosion vents designed according to
information in NFPA 68, Venting of Deflagrations. Some think that installing
an explosion vent on a dust collector prevents an explosion. This is not the
case. The vent relieves the pressure of an explosion. Dust collectors can be
installed safely inside buildings only under one of the following
How many wood shops have the DC outside? Or have vents from reinforced
ducts? I don't think this applies to us.
Sorry, Still no real information. I won't be next because no one has been
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