Another winner from Lee Valley

[Mark & Juanita]

A rather simple product, it's just a shelf hanger for "floating" shelves: , but they exhibit those little things that make the product much easier to use. The main feature that makes this such a great product is the fact that the set screws that hold the posts to the base plates are pointed, allowing one to use them as locating pins prior to drilling the shelf holes. This was really important to my application as I was using these in a rather non-standard fashion, putting floating shelves around the entire perimeter of our son's room, about 1 foot below the ceiling. The ability to use the set screws as locating points made butting the shelf edges together a straightforward task. Very cool.

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[Leuf]

It's kind of strange that they are quoting weight ratings for a 4" deep shelf when the posts are 5" long though. It's probably just that at 4" it worked out to a nice round 100 lbs or something, but it's still weird.

-Leuf

[Rob Lee]

Hi -

Good point... it's phrased akwardly...

Weight capacity is measured at a distance from a fulcrum.... so what the write-up is trying to say (badly) is that the shelf will support 100Lb, centered at 4"....with even distribution.

Cheers -

Rob

[Leuf]

Okay that makes sense. 4" is a pretty wussy shelf, I should have figured that out :)

As long as I have your ear and we're talking about confusing wordings, a while back ago I ordered some hangers (00S06.20) which are described as

"The large hangers are brass plated, 1-1/2" high and 1-1/2" wide, and have holes for #8 round-head screws."

Now I thought that meant you mounted it with 2 #8 screws, and they didn't fit. I emailed customer service and told them it should be #6 and got a response that they tried it and said that a #6 seemed to work ok, but a #8 worked fine. That had me going "Huh?" for a while. I finally figured out they must be talking about the hole it *hangs* from. And yep, a #8 fits in there nicely and a #6 works but is a little precarious. I did send an email back saying that's what I thought was going on, but never did get a response. At least for me, when I'm ordering something like I'm not worried about what it's going to hang on, just do I have the right size brass screws to mount it with. And it definitely, positively mounts with #6 :)

-Leuf

[Gordon Airporte]

Maybe put a link to a 5"+ long 7/16" bit on the page while you're at it?

[Chris Friesen]

A standard "jobber length" 7/16" bit is 5 1/2" long. I guess you could drill most of the way in, then re-chuck it with just 1/2" in the jaws...

Chris

[Mark & Juanita]

Yeah, that part was a bit of a challenge. I have some bradpoint bits, but to get to 5+ inches, I had to drill an initial hole with the drill press to get a good perpendicular start, then chuck another bit in the hand drill, using only a short amount of shank to get the length needed. I could have made a trip to one of the borgs for a long bit (I had 3/8 and

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[The3rd Earl Of Derby]

Have these just come out in the states?

The UK has had that type of shelf support for quite a few years now.

[Mark & Juanita]

Probably not, some of us just lead sheltered lives. :-) What struck me about these was the fact that the set screw could be used as a dowel center to assure that the shelf holes are properly aligned.

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[The3rd Earl Of Derby]

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Alignment would be a doddle anyway,by means of a scribe run down the center of the edge of wood measure how far in you want the dowl support. drill the holes, push brackets into holes of shelf half way,offer it upto the wall,put a spirit level on shelf,mark holes for mounting on the wall. Drill holes in wall,mount brackets,push shelf into position.

Job done. :-)

[Mark & Juanita]

The advantage of this is that one can install the hangars on the wall first, thus assuring that you have hit the studs.

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[CW]

Consider that Sir Middlethwaite lives in the land of brick and stone. No studs to hit.

[The3rd Earl Of Derby]

Hah! but Sir Benny has come across studding in false walls in the UK also :-) to be fair finding the studding and distance apart is paramount before any type of shelving goes up and this where my statement comes into play ie... Quote: "measure how far in you want the dowl support".

;-)

[Rob Lee]

Hi -

No worries - will have that one modified ASAP... of course, our 2006-2007 catalog is at the printer right now (258 pages this year!)... not sure if that signature can be modified....but we'll try!

Cheers -

Rob