Lew is/was a huge beleiver in microballoons. Which are great,
especially if you care about the weight of the completed
project, but not everyone keeps a 50lb box of microballoons
on hand, or has a West Marine store handy to buy some.
Pretty much every woodworker has sawdust.
Reading these posts, it reminds me of why I don't use GG. Anything that is fussy, takes extra steps, can be hit or miss in its application, or puts any doubt <<at all>> of failure never makes it to the job.
On Tuesday, April 5, 2016 at 2:56:07 PM UTC-4, John McCoy wrote:
I recently had a number of pieces appraised at my house, pieces that came
from SWMBO's grandmother.
My sister recently had a number of pieces appraised at her house, pieces
that came from our grandparents and great-grandparents.
My brother stopped by an antiques dealer/consignment shop recently to get
some general information about selling older furniture/antiques.
3 different people talking to 3 different appraisers in 3 different states,
all getting basically the same answer:
Determining what a piece is "worth" is one thing. Finding a buyer at that
price is getting more and more difficult these days. The older folks who once
cherished finely built furniture, hand crafted china, etc. are dying off or
have all that they need. The younger generations don't care about the old
stuff because nobody furnishes their houses that way anymore.
The guy that came to my house basically told us that we had some really
nice pieces (both furniture and china) but not to expect to get anywhere
near the prices he quoted if we tried to sell it. He said to use his numbers
for insurance purposes, but don't expect even half that if we tried to sell
When I mentioned the prices for pieces of china at sites like replacements.com,
he said that those prices are their retail prices, not what they would buy
the pieces from us for.
It's a shame that a lot of really nice isn't worth much anymore.
On Tue, 5 Apr 2016 13:10:13 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
Just wait till you want to buy a piece, skies the limit. These guys
tell you that song and dance because some of it sits in stock for a
long time. But they will never give the stuff away at a lower price.
Antique flea markets are good for pieces that show wear, for the primo
stuff it depends on where you are at.
On Wednesday, April 6, 2016 at 11:12:51 AM UTC-4, OFWW wrote:
In my case, it wasn't a song and dance, because I paid the guy a fee to
do an appraisal. There was no expectation of an exchange of money or goods.
This guy is often the "guest appraiser" at antique events/flea markets, etc.
in our area. When we made the appointment he told me "I charge by the hour.
Do yourself a favor: Number every item that you want me to appraise and
have a notebook ready. That way I can give you a brief explanation of the
item along with an insurance and possible retail price. You write it down
and we move on. That's much quicker and much cheaper for you."
He never offered to take anything off our hands "as a favor to us" or even
"If you want, I can try and sell it for you to what we'll get."
In my brother's case, the guy walked him around the shop, pointing out pieces
that were attractively priced, but not moving. He said that he had agreements
with many of the consignors that allowed him to lower the prices to get things
sold. He said that more and more lately, the buyers weren't looking for a good
price on quality furniture, they were looking for the cheapest price, period. There is so much of the older stuff on the market, no one is going to pay
decent money for any of it. He said that the consignors were often very
disappointed at what the piece eventually brought.
This 2014 article is just one of many that discuss the shrinking market
for antiques. The market gets even smaller for older pieces that show wear.
With the trend towards quality pieces selling at lower prices, no one wants
to buy great-grandma's armoire or dresser for anywhere near what the family
- or even the appraiser - values it at.
On Wed, 6 Apr 2016 10:18:53 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
Well you could knock me over with a feather, I wasn't even aware of
It would be a great time to restore a period house and furnish it,
flip a resto, done properly I think it could restore that whole market
and create a market at the same time.
But then come to think of it, I am appalled at what is happening to
old homes, like on this olde house where they semi fix up the outside
like a resto, then totally hack up the inside.
On Wednesday, April 6, 2016 at 9:55:38 PM UTC-4, OFWW wrote:
On the other hand, there is something to be said for the look of a period
house on the outside and the convenience of a modern home on the inside.
If you are going to live in a house, why not make it work in a way that
fits your lifestyle? Would you want to live in a house with 4 small
bedrooms and one shared bathroom or would it make more sense to combine
2 bedrooms to create a master with an en suite?
I helped a friend convert the small kitchen and wood storage room of
a farmhouse into a huge modern kitchen. We took out a fireplace, dropped
the chimney (that's a story undo itself!) removed a wall. Meanwhile,
the outside of the house was restored to it's original beauty, including
the replacement/repair of 3 brick stoops.
Neither of the interior remodels would match the period of the exterior,
by why would you subject yourself to the "inconvenience" of a period
interior just to say that you did a complete restoration?
I'd agree. Times change, people have smaller families,
there are appliances that didn't exist 100 years ago, we
tend to have more stuff and at the same time don't like
the "overfilled" rooms the Victorians were so fond of.
I would say that unless a house is "historic" (e.g.
Washington slept there or something) it's better to put
it to use than to try and preserve it unchanged.
Apparently we are also taller. Friend of mine had a house built in the
1700s. All the railings and banisters seemed to have been sized for
midgets. I'm surprised nobody ever tripped over one and took a header
down the stairwell.
Throw away the old dowel and buy or make a new one, more fitting... you won't have to clean the old one.
As others have said, I vote to use epoxy. You don't have to clamp tight nor have to have a completely snug fit.
IME, a fit that is "not snug ... but doesn't wiggle" is not that big of
All you have to do is look at xray's of antiques to see how much "wiggle
room" is in some of those still solid joints.
If you really want to do it right, and it is indeed an antique glued
with hot hide glue, go with a real hide glue that will bond to
itself/reactivate the old glue, or, in lieu thereof, a very specific
modern incarnation _specifically_ "Old Brown" glue.
... but NOT one of the "liquid hide glues" on the market that don't
have to be heated.
Rockler has it:
If you find yourself using the old fashioned hot hide glue, warming the
parts with a dryer, and using the hot glue will most likely reactivate
the old glue and likely last another 100 years.
On Tuesday, April 5, 2016 at 9:12:58 AM UTC-5, Jon Danniken wrote:
If no one else has recommended this, why don't your ream the hole with a drill bit (going up by 1/64th increments until you get solid wood) and turn a new dowel? Then use a very good wood glue and put the piece back together.
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