A Trick for long tapers on a table saw?


Problem: Need a 4 foot board 3.5 inches wide on one end and 3' 5/16'ths on the other. I have a taper jig I bought from Delta (I think) but it's not big enough.
Questions: Do I not know how to use the taper jig I have? Do I have to build my own? If so, where can I find plans? Or should I make a larger model of the one I bought?
Solution(s): Hopefully the responders of this post will provide.....
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Only one? Double sided tape a straightedge (board) to the top of the board to be tapered. Tape it at the angle you need. Attach an L shaped bracket (couple of boards nailed together at a right angle) to your tablesaw fence high enough so the workpiece slides under it but the bracket bares on the straitedge. Set fence and run through saw. Alternatively, tape the straightedge as before and use it for a router guide to cut your board.

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On 30 May 2005 19:39:12 -0700, "Never Enough Money"

If you need to use a table saw CW's method will work fine. You could also accomplish this easily with a joiner.
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On 31 May 2005 17:31:44 -0700, "Never Enough Money"
If you need 3 1/2" it is easiest if you start with ripping a piece 3 9/16. Set your joiner to 1/16. Put a mark on the end you want to be 3 5/16. Theoretically you will need to make 4 passes to take off the 4/16. Place your board on the joiner with about 16" of the end you want to be narrow on the rear table and make a pass. Move the board to about half way and make another pass. Move the board where almost all of it is on the rear table but an inch or so is still on the front table and make another pass. Now for the final pass run the entire length of the piece. That should do it.
Use the mark for reference as you go to be sure your joiner depth is okay for four passes. Use normal joiner use techniques and pay attention to grain direction. You can do this starting with a 3 1/2" piece (in 3 passes) but your last run will have to be the one with the piece barely sitting on the front table. This will cause you to have an inch or so at that end that didn't get any taper.
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I use a skill saw with a straight edge leaving the pencil line exposed and depending on my mood, either a router with a trim bit or the jointer. SH
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when you trim out the entire post you're replying to, no one has any idea what the heck you're talking about.
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What are you talking about when you say "trim out the entire post."
I view this thread through Google groups and it's really easy to see why replies go with what posts. No confusion.....
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Yes, that was fairly predictable. Those who use Google groups tend to look at usenet as a web forum, and eventually it may devolve to that. But recognize that a large portion of the readership uses newsreaders that don't download the whole thread each time a new message is added. And while we could go back and see the context, it is more efficient use of screen space to look at current messages only.
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So what shoud I do, repeat the post I'm responding to? That seem inefficient. Seems like you usenet folks should move on itno the year 2005.
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If you want the majority of your readers to know what you're talking about, then, yes.

And making people wonder what the heck you're talking about, isn't?

No, it seems like: a) Google should fix its broken news interface, which fails to quote posts when following up b) you should switch to using a real newsreader.
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For those of you using a newsreader -- I'm responding to Doug Miler who said:

If you want the majority of your readers to know what you're talking about, then, yes.

And making people wonder what the heck you're talking about, isn't?

No, it seems like: a) Google should fix its broken news interface, which fails to quote posts when following up b) you should switch to using a real newsreader.
Now finally I can say my piece....
Perhaps I don't know what a newsreader is. The one I thought I tried about two years ago was far inferior to Google.
BTW, I notice huge numbers of folks do the same as I do - they don't quote anything. That makes me suspect your use of the word "majority".
I'll also check the settings/preferences on Google. Perhaps it will "quote" or maybe you can tell me where to find a "newsreader" that I don't have to be a computer scientists to download, upload, overload, install, figure out, etc.
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Which one did you try?
MickeySoft Outhouse and Outhouse Express are not newsreaders. Neither is Netscape.
I use NewsXpress mostly, Microplanet Gravity sometimes. Lots of regulars here use Forte Agent or Free Agent.

Take a look at the headers on those posts: nearly all of them are using the same broken Google interface you use. Then compare them to the number of posts that properly quote what they're replying to, and you'll see that (a) there are quite a bit more of the latter than the former, and (b) almost *none* of the latter are using Google Groups.

Let us hope so. Perhaps in time Google could be persuaded to make quoting the default behavior - but given their utter lack of responsiveness to anything *else* involving newsgroups, I'm not holding my breath.

Google on any of the newsreaders that I named above. NewsXpress in particular is dirt-simple to install and use.
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On 1 Jun 2005 18:49:26 -0700, "Never Enough Money"

http://www.forteinc.com/agent/download.php
It's not any harder than an e-mail program to use once you get the hang of it. The only thing you'll have to do is find out what your ISP's news service is and plug it into the program. News servers have an address similar to mail servers- it should look like this "news.your_ISP_here.com" The outgoing mail server is the same as the one in your e-mail program (IE. "smtp.your_ISP_here.com"
To get you started, download and install free agent, select "options" and then "User and System profile" Fill in your handle and e-mail address on the first screen, then click on the "system" tab and enter your news server amd outgoing mail server as noted above. If you don't know what your news server is, call your ISP and they'll tell you.
Next select "Online" and then "Get new groups" from the drop-down menu. This'll take a few minutes. Once you've got a list of groups, you can either search for keywords using control+F (or "edit" then "find") or just scroll through the list with the sliding bar on the side. When you find a group you want to follow, right-click on it and select "subscribe" Once you've subscribed to some, you can navigate to the subscribed groups window by clicking on the text below the "groups" tab. This way, you can just keep the ones you are interested handy for easy access.
To get message headers, click on the button on the left side of the screen below the drop down menu bar. (if you let your pointer float over the buttons for a second, they will give you a short description- you're looking for the get new headers button) Once you've found that, it will download the titles for all availible messages. When you want to read a message, double-click on it, and it will download the message from the server and open it.
It might sound like a lot, but it's really easy once you do it once or twice, and it works quite a lot better than Google, at least in my opinion.
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Ok, getting Free Agent to work has turned into a science fair project. The download was trivial. However, that's just the beginning.
First, I use Yahoo mail not mail from my ISP (Indra's Net). I called my ISP to get my username and password, which I haven't used in6 years. Found out their news server and mail server. Free Agent gave me errors. After playing around for an hour, I contact my ISP and they said the proble is that I get braodband from Comcats, not them.
I contact Comcast. They said I must connect to giginews. I got a username and password from them too. I've been trying for about 20 minutes and have sent Comcast another question asking why I'm getting the follwing error:
"Error reported by winsock driver. Conection refused by server [error 10061]"
I found error 10061 in "help" and it says the server may be down. I've tried this severla times over 24 hours so I ssupect it's something else.
These frustrations are why people use Google. Google is simple.
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Never Enough Money wrote:

Indra's news server is "news.indra.com" per their support page. Their news server should interface with GigaNews.
It looks like Indra may have a copy of "Free Agent" that MAY already set up for their service. Take a looks at their download page at:
http://www.indra.com/support/downloads.html#news
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You are missing the point. I called Indra's net and spoke with their tech weenie. He said I needed to connect through Comcast since they are my broadband modem provider.
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You may be missing something, too: you can probably (but not necessarily) connect to Indra's news server *through* your broadband connection to Comcast. Lots of front-line tech support people are absolutely clueless about anything that isn't completely 100 percent standard, and they'll automatically tell you it can't be done, when the truth is they haven't been told how. Try to get past Indra's front-line support, and talk to somebody in their second tier support group - if *they* tell you it can't be done, that's probably correct.
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On 1 Jun 2005 17:44:42 -0700, "Never Enough Money"

I've tried them both, and Agent is far more effiencient than Google. Not to mention that Google only carries a fraction of Usenet. If you doubt that, go check out alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking!
But go ahead and use whatever posting preference you like (because you will anyhow). Just be advised that it doesn't come out correctly for much of the group.
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wrote:

After Google takes over the world, who's gonna need software anyway. SH - Look out microsoft. Here comes google.
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Don't worry. The Chinese are stealing everything and soon we'll be buying from them.
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