A really cool day is a wooddorker's life...

Tanbark was originally any kind of bark (usually an oak species) which had been soaked to produce a tanning solution. It was waste so it was fairly cheap. Later it became a generic name for shredded bark.

IIRC tan oak took its name from the fact that the Californians used it extensively to tan hides because it was so common. Under Mexico hides, tanned or untanned were a major item of commerce in old California.

I don't believe tan oak is even a true oak. But it's bark is very high in tannin.

--RC Sleep? Isn't that a totally inadequate substitute for caffine?

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rcook notes:

Lithocarpus densiflorus. Oaks are Quercus spp. Actually, from Fagaceae, or beech family.

You're right about the tannin, too.

Charlie Self "Health nuts are going to feel stupid someday, lying in hospitals dying of nothing." Redd Foxx

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Larry Jaques wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

Up: 101 to Cloverdale, 128 to the coast along the Navarro River, then up 1 to Ft. Bragg. Back: 20 to Willits, 101 south to Petaluma, then over to Martinez via 37. I-5 seems out of the way, unless one is headed to Rogue River area. ;-) And I-5 is just a super-slab, anyway.

Classes run six days. I haven't put together the time or cash simultaneously to take the class yet. Green wood chairmaking.

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Great guy. Quite a character, and quite a craftsperson.

I have no idea. It's not my business. I only know O'Deen in cyberspace, and pretty much just by reputation there. Although it is a substantial reputation...

Lyle Lovett's lyrics would fit your sense of humour and irony. Particularly some of the older stuff. A unique mix of Texas swing, blues, some gospel, and big band. It sounds better than it describes. And Lyle is living proof that not all music stars are pretty boys. He's rather Dylanesque.

You're one of the folks whose way I get out of.

Patriarch

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snipped-for-privacy@TAKEOUTmindspring.com wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

Mine has discovered the joys of buying fabric online. She spends less online than she does in the stores, per trip. Now she wants more fabric storage capacity, and another sewing machine of approximately the same cost as a new Laguna bandsaw...

But we DON'T compare tool purchases, for very good reasons. She'll get her machine soon.

Patriarch

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snipped-for-privacy@aol.comnotforme (Charlie Self) wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@mb-m04.aol.com:

All true. Here's more:

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wood finishes similarly to Oregon white oak, when cared for properly in the drying process.

It's challenging to work, but it's native to an area my faily has called home for a number of generations.

Patriarch

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Did you stop at the Highlight Gallery in Mendocino? max

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max wrote in news:BDC29948.344EE% snipped-for-privacy@earthlink.net:

Not this trip. We went in May, though. Great way to spend a couple of hours.

Patriarch

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On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 19:44:51 GMT, snipped-for-privacy@TAKEOUTmindspring.com calmly ranted:

OK, 4 large suitcases which can be tied down over the lumber. Just take the truck...unless she wants an equalizing hitch on the back of her car and you can get a trailer to tow... (Did I just hear an agreement for suitcases? Thot so.)

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Thu, Nov 18, 2004, 5:57am (EST+5) patriarch (patriarch= snipped-for-privacy@nospam.comcastDOTnet) says: As has been said here recently: "Life is good!"

Indeed.

JOAT Measure twice, cut once, swear repeatedly.

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that's what I thought... just rang a bell when the word "tanbark" came up..

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I love the one about his girl leaving on the bus, and all the shit that happens to him when he's trying to stop her.. reminds me a little of Arlo Guthry..

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snipped-for-privacy@webtv.net (J T) wrote in news:4517-419D7787-459@storefull-

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Glad to hear that the doctor had pretty good news for you, JOAT. Some balancing out seemed overdue.

Did your T-shirts arrive yet? ;-)

Patriarch

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Same rules apply. S/H industrial cost less, work better, and hold resale value. My big sewing machine weighs about the same as my bandsaw, but has a bigger motor and a real oil-pan on it that takes a couple of pints in an oil change. For quilting work it would also have a _lot_ more room under the arm than any domestic.

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On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 01:55:28 GMT, patriarch calmly ranted:

I headed up I-5 to O-38 to the coast at Reedsport (I hadn't seen that section of Oregon yet), then down 101 to C-20 to Bragg, back to 101 from Mendocino, down to Santa Rosa where I got a grand tour of Ed's cool steam/machine/woodworking/robotics shop (Hi, Ed!), and on down to Mom's in Valley Jo (aka Vallejo).

I left at 5am for the return trip and went straight up I-5 to avoid the ghastly summer heat. It had been 100+ on 101. My next truck will have A/C, P/W, and PDL.

In So Cal, it was 6 lanes of concrete in each direction. Up here, it's two lanes of blacktop in each direction. WHAT a difference!

Nice shavehorses. Yummy display wall cabinet. He does nice work.

Keep your gospel, thanks. The rest sound good.

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Andy Dingley wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

Room under the arm is the only reason for the purchase. Second hand industrial would be great.

I've learned a little bit about rust hunting WRT woodoworking tools. Any pointers on how to go about this specialty? And what brands/models/features one might seek?

My checking account would appreciate this greatly. ;-)

Patriarch

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Same as woodworking. Buy them from someone who is in the industry, not so naive as to expect to get back what they paid, and needs the money or the space in a hurry. Sewing machine repairmen are usually a good source, for only a bit more money and they usually service before selling. Dealers with shopfronts will cost a lot more.

eBay isn't a bad place to look - if location is right.

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I too am a Wood Dorker.

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For quilting work you get a long-arm quilting machine. Think a sewing machine mounted on a big frame with an XY drive. Think ten grand or so.

We ain't the only ones with expensive toys.

--RC Sleep? Isn't that a totally inadequate substitute for caffine?

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Well, SWMBO started out with the same question we hear so often in this NG.

Where are you and what are you trying to do?

Are you looking for a conventional sewing machine, a sewing-embroidery machine, an upholstery machine, a quilting machine, etc.?

How heavy is the material you're going to be sewing? How big are the pieces. What do you need in the way of special stiches, etc., etc., etc.

For conventional machines my wife swears by Viking/Huskvarna. She's bought three of them and we will have all of them. (She also has an overlock machine and two bedrooms in our three-bedroom house are cutting and sewing rooms, and there's fabric everywhere, but those are different issues.)

Conversely, stay away from any Singer made in the last 20 years. Another once proud name reduced to junk by the bean counters.

Once we've got all that settled, she can probably give you some pretty good advice on used machines.

--RC

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On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 15:08:16 GMT, patriarch calmly ranted:

Look for local industrial sewing machine repairmen. They should have inexpensive used machines. HF has a new Chinese machine, motor, clutch, and table for under $400.

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Does anybody here (or their wife) have one of these? I'm wondering about the quality and parts availability.

-- Friends Don't Let Friends Eat Turkey and Drive --

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