A new shop dog

[Bob Martin]

It'll be worth every penny.

[Dave]

On Mon, 3 Dec 2012 07:07:50 -0500, "Mike Marlow"

Know you're joking, but you'd need a metal crate for most dogs. They'd chew their way out of anything else.

[Dave Balderstone]

Shop dog, not bench dog.

Although she'd fit on my bench...

[Dave Balderstone]

A good dog house is on the list. She loves the outdoors. Looking forward to taking her ice fishing soon.

[Dave Balderstone]

A brother had a shepherd/coyote cross. Buck chewed and clawed his way through a plaster and lath wall. Both sides.

[tiredofspam]

Actually I don't recommend a metal crate. My dog had one and hated it. He broke a tooth opening it, not the door, he squeezed his way through the top and sides... he maneuvered it enough.

Anyway most dogs like the close off feel, its secure. The plastic kennels give them that. Mine preferred it. I eventually stopped crating him. He doesn't like, or need it. He's pretty good. Separation anxiety, but he is not spiteful.

[-MIKE-]

+1

[Larry Jaques]

I guess "had" was the right word.

P.S: What'd the girl look like when the coyote woke up with his arm under her?

-- ...in order that a man may be happy, it is necessary that he should not only be capable of his work, but a good judge of his work. -- John Ruskin

[Sonny]

Well, it's my understanding, that most good dogs, with a little patience an= d training, will soon learn some routine, including what a safe kennel/cage= place is, similarly as learning that a mat/bed in a "favorite" spot is a l= imit to their wanderings. =20

I once had a golden retriever and black lab and would bring them inside whe= n it got cold and/or on other occassions. They quickly learned their place= s and limits, when inside. I've seen this with other dogss, as well, so I = would expect Kaci to become just as obedient.... after all, she's in good h= ands.

Speaking of building, but not a cage for indoors, I made this dog house for= a friend's shelter dog, that also quickly learned her places and limits wh= en inside:

's been a little chewing on the posts, but I don't mind going visit an= d repair these.

I'll vote: Kaci and Dave got/will have the best of the adoption deal, all r= ound!

Sonny

[tiredofspam]

training, will soon learn some routine, including what a safe kennel/cage place is, similarly as learning that a mat/bed in a "favorite" spot is a limit to their wanderings.

it got cold and/or on other occassions. They quickly learned their places and limits, when inside. I've seen this with other dogss, as well, so I would expect Kaci to become just as obedient.... after all, she's in good hands.

friend's shelter dog, that also quickly learned her places and limits when inside:

repair these.

That dog looks exactly like my dog.

And I agree, my dog has a few beds around the house. One in the shop area, and one in my bedroom, and another in the family room. That's where he goes when we are there or when he wants to rest.

[CW]

She definitely wasn't free. $238 adoption fee, $15 for a licence, $250 for a crate big enough for her, plus a Halty, bowls, rope tug, bag of food... BUT: Free vet checkup on Friday, and 6 weeks of pet health insurance for accident and illness. ===================================================================== At those prices, it is obvious that they rather put them down rather than find new homes for them.

[-MIKE-]

Bullshit.

[CW]

Bullshit. ================================================== No, not at all.

[-MIKE-]

With all that evidence you presented, how can I argue.

Oh, that's right, I've fostered over 100 animals through shelters, dealing closely with them, learning the financial strains they are under and learning about the people they deal with trying to adopt animals who end up bringing them back, etc, etc, etc.

Now, what were you saying again? Oh that's right... nothing. Just blind speculation, otherwise know as... hmmm where have I heard this before? Oh that's tight, bullshit.

Thanks for playing.

[Dave]

That doesn't make any sense at all. Adoption fee, licensing and yearly licensing renewal on top of that. Initial supplies ~ all of these things are revenue makers.

It makes more sense to promote adoption so they can profit from that revenue stream.

[Dave Balderstone]

Nice, but impractical in our winters... I'm shooting for at least R40 when I build hers.

But she does love gamboling in the snow.

[Dave Balderstone]

On the contrary. The shelter here will keep a dog until they are adopted. They also take animals from other shelters in the province when those are full.

The only dogs they euthanize are those that have been so abused they are vicious, without hope of rehabilitation.

[Dave Balderstone]

Maybe it's high compared to some other jurisdictions, but it includes all shots being up to date, microchipping, a paid vet checkup (we're going Friday), spay and/or neuter if required, and 6 weeks of pet health insurance.

Try and do all that for just over $200.

[-MIKE-]

The simple answer is cats are less expensive than dogs. Shelters generally have cats at 10:1 to dogs. Things like medicine and microchips are cheaper in bulk. Cat's are much easier/cheaper to spay/neuter, etc, etc.

Shelters have also found, from experience, a correlation between the number of returned animals to the expense of the fee for adoption. The lower the fee, the more likely it is the pet will be returned to them. Human nature, people don't value what doesn't cost them.

They can weed out a lot of "impulse adopters" by simply charging any amount to begin with. They can weed out many returns by charging something higher. Most, as you say, are on a shoe-string budget. In the spring when cats breed like rabbits :-), you see cheaper adoption fees. Most shelters who do this are losing money and just hoping they don't get as many returned, this time around.

Bottom line is, ol' CW was spouting ignorance.

[CW]

Bottom line is, people are going to look at that price and go get a puppy out of the newspaper for free to $25.00. Say you go to two different car lots and look at the same car. One of them is priced way higher than the other. When asked why his price is so high, he says it's to make sure you really want it. You'd buy the expensive one, right?