I want to make a carved panel. The 4/4 lumber at the local yard is
just 11/16" thick. Howninthehell am I supposed to work with that?
The best they could suggest is that I buy some 8/4 and plane it down
to the thickness I really want.
On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 17:39:30 +0000, Edward A. Falk wrote:
Are you talking softwood like pine or fir? Calling it "lumber" would
tend to indicate that but I can't see using either for carving. But I
buy hardwood frequently and the 4/4 is always at least 13/16' and more
often 7/8" or more. Maybe you're looking in the wrong place.
Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw
I would agree for S2S but 4/4 has always been 3/4" in S4S lumber.
For some definition of "always"... :)
_WAY_ back framing lumber was nominally 13/16--the 3/4--1-1/2 came into
being sometime in like the '50s w/ the advent of so much more "real"
3/4" sheetgoods than were used previously. That made the 2-plies of ply
match up pretty well w/ a tubafor and got rid of that odd sixteenth of
the older dimensions.
Now we've progressed to the point where we're having to shim again or
buy undersized bits because the sheet goods have been cheapened down a
32-nd or so (if they're metric it's probably not 23/32nd but some near
roughly equivalent altho I've not thoroughly investigated that; just
Progress, indeed! :(
It is hard to tell what the OP means by "lumber" here, specifically. It
surely wouldn't surprise if some mill or mills has/have gone to
something more like the ply thickness for one-by stuff. After all, a
half-gallon ice cream carton is now 3-qts. :(
I'd not expect hardwoods to be that short, no...
You are talking about construction lumber which is typically not sold as
4/4, 5/4 etc rather 1x by, 2x
And I don't recall in recent history say in the last 30 years sheet
goods being sold as actual stated thickness although I have recently
purchased plywood that was actually 3/4" and 1/4" thick. Stuff looked
super fat. ;~)
Actually a half gallon of ice cream is still a half gallon. I am not
sure I would be displeased with ice cream being sold as 1/2 gallon
actually having 3 quarts. Perhaps you meant 3 pints.
Dibs on all the straight chocolate (or mint'n'chip)! You can have
-all- the rest.
He undoubtedly meant pints. The new cartons are 48 ounces (v. 64) any
more. I like the No Sugar Added types, too. (I ache less.)
A human being must have occupation if he or
she is not to become a nuisance to the world.
-- Dorothy L. Sayers
We need to find -jobs- for our CONgresscritters!
-- Larry Jaques
To inject a little (but important) further irrelevancy:
Most brands of ice cream are now labeled "frozen dairy dessert", not "ice
cream". So not only have "they" downsized the product, but they've cheapened
it to where it can't meet requirements for being termed "ice cream".
I managed to find a carton of Breyer's ice cream last week, by rummaging
through the grocery's large quantity of Breyer's. It was plain old chocolate,
but beggars can't be choosers.
Check the ingredients. They started to add plant gum and other crap to
it for "consistency and creaminess."
I already emailed them and said that after 3 decades of buying nothing
but Breyer's, I'll be buying a different brand.
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
Still the best,
Ice Cream and the 1/2 gal containers still have 1/2 gal.
If you can't get it, consider that it is a locally produced product in
SE Tex but expanding.
I'm surprised. This is Southern California, where the most common non-house
brands are Dreyers (Edys out east, I understand) and Breyers. Dreyers seems
to be 100% "frozen dairy desert" now, and as I observed in the first message
Breyers is almost that way.
To get back to wood issues: The homeowner's association recently complained
about the faded paint on the wood that frames my garage door, and requested it
be touched up. No complaints - for once in their wretched lives it was
reasonable - but I decided that the wood itself had seen better days and the
minor expense of replacement was an intelligent expenditure.
It turned out to be 1 1/2 x 1 3/4, and as expected that was a non-existent
size these days. I ended up having bigger stock milled down at a real lumber
yard, and it's sitting in the garage ready to be installed.
What??? You want my home to be condemned? I don't want to be living with my
frozen dairy dessert under some bridge abutment
My far-more-talented housekeeper will tackle it today. It's a pleasure to run
into a woman who loves tools and isn't afraid to use 'em.
When my cheapo "Tradesman" miter saw had a physical frame failure last year,
my housekeeper took it - I was going to trash it - and patched it up enough to
be useable. I went out and bought a nice Hitachi laser-guide miter saw, and
she has used it far more than I have, mostly in upgrading most of my
baseboards and the like.
I've hated my POS Craftsman saber saw for the thirty years I've owned the
atrocity, and as a result of a recent "What's the Best Jig Saw" thread here in
the newsgroup I went out and purchased a Bosch. Talk about an upgrade!!! I
still haven't had need to use it myself in that month - it's not a tool I use
particularly often - but my housekeeper has used it a couple of times and is
similarly wowed by it. So thanks to the several of you who made that
recommendation, even though I wasn't the OP on that thread.
b.Terry, none of your messages contain any additional comment by you.
Something isn't working for ya. This is maybe the fifth in two days
which hasn't said anything. Heads up!
Win first, Fight later.
--martial principle of the Samurai
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